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Someone posted info on kwvets@onelist.com with reference to Archives data 
bases, this was my reply. 


Subj:    Re: [kwvets] KIA, etc. list, Korean War
Date:   2/8/00 12:04:18 PM Eastern Standard Time
From:   CavKVet50@aol.com
Reply-to:   kwvets@onelist.com
To: kwvets@onelist.com

From: CavKVet50@aol.com

Thanks for posting the information. You should remember though that the 
information at Archives is the data base that Department of the Army 
[Defense]sent 
over about 1980. Since then they've updated their records. Since 1954 there 
have been over 500 reclassifications from DWMIA/POW to KIA/DOW. Also a number 
of corrections, deletions, elimination of duplicate data. I have a roster 
that was released in 1994 with the updated information and casualty numbers 
so know whereof I speak. 

Recently the 50th Ann. of the KW Comm. Committee released a bookmark showing 
these updated numbers. Make all inquiries to that committee at 1213 Jefferson 
Davis Highway, Crystal Gateway Four, Suite 702, Arlington, VA 22202 - not to 
me. This is also where the DoD's directorate for information operations and 
reports is located - DIOR. 

Here are the current numbers as stated by DoD DIOR - Hostile deaths: 33,651; 
Non-Battle: 20,617 (this includes 3,262 non-battle deaths in Korea [2,452 
Army, 173 Navy, 339 MCm 298 AF] and 17,355 "other" deaths which occurred in 
places other than Korea, eg: US, Germany, etc. and for which there is no data 
base). Total - 54,268. As we speak the roster is once again in the process of 
revision. The DoD says that no roster of the "other" deaths exists at DoD; 
this is probably true, but there is some evidence to suggest that records do 
exist at archives but that it would cost about $1 million to build such a 
list. 

Included - repeat INCLUDED -in the hostile deaths for Korea are so-called 
8,200 + BNR (body-not-returned or remains not returned cases in hostile 
categories KIA, MIA and POW). The numbers  can be found in the DPMO's data 
base see<A HREF="http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/pmkor.htm">PERSONNEL MISSING - 
KOREA [PMKOR]</A>. The numbers keep changing as new information is found and 
the DPMO updates frequently.

In addition to the DoD DIOR data base, the American Battle Monuments 
Commission is also building a data base for the Honr Roll data base that is 
available at the kiosk at the Korean War Veterans Memorial at D.C. It is not 
on the internet, but in my estimation should be. However, the ABMC will sell 
you its roster for a hefty fee. Their roster contains all of the DoD DIOR 
information, plus it has the post-war Korea (DMZ etc) deaths; merchant marine 
and civilian deaths in Korea; a number (last I heard about 100) of the 
so-called "other" worldwide deaths included in the 17,355 figure. Plus a 
small number of entries which are in addition to or differ from the DoD DIOR 
data base. 

A number of K-vets across the country are working on the "other" deaths and 
have been able in recent months to give ABMC additional names. Wish more 
K-vets would do the same thing. They are finding names of deaths at sea, in 
training accidents, in maneuvers in Germany, in airplane crashes, etc. from 
all over the world - these deaths did not occur in Korea, but they are part 
of the 54,268. 

Best...Marty O'Brien