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Re: July 1950
May 2, 2001
Dear Lacy:
I picked up the book from the Library last evening. The maps have
helped me to pretty much place Don at the time of his being KIA. I sorta'
guess you, Chief Wyrick and others probably knew already due to the date of
his demise and his Units.- The map on page 91 shows 3/21 in the battle
between Chonui and Choch'iwon where the narrative reads - "This attack on
the 3d Battalion, 21st Infantry, was one of the most perfectly co-ordinated
assults ever launched by North Koreans against American troops. ...."
Well now I know... I feel good because I now know and feel my knowing
keeps Don somehow from being all alone in it, but of course I feel horrible
and devestated to see how overwhelmed and over run the 3d/21 was.
Thank you for your assistance in helping me search until I finally
placed him and know what he went through.
Best,
GerneyLee Carter (Donovan Carter's sister) 3d/21/Co M
>From: "Lacy C. Barnett" <abarnett@globalsite.net>
>To: "Gernilee Carter Gramling" <cartergramling@msn.com>
>Subject: Re: July 1950
>Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 14:28:07 -0500
>
>In the 3rd Battalion, 21st Inf, there was Headquarters and Headquarters
>Company; Company I (Item); Company K (King); Company L (Love); and Company
>M
>(Mike). The 3rd Bn was supported by elements of Heavy Mortar Company,
>Service Company, and Medical Company. When we went to Korea in July 1950,
>each company had about 120 men. If he was MIA one day and then listed as
>KIA the next day, that is a clear indication that his body was recovered
>and
>positively identified by a responsible person. The body would have been
>taken to a temporary cemetery for burial. Then at a later date, the
>remains
>would have been sent to Japan for positive identification from health
>records, and then sent back to the family in the U.S. It is my opinion
>that
>if the Army sent his remains back to the family for burial, the remains
>were
>there in the casket, and had been properly identified.
>If you are reading Appleman online, read about what the 3rd Battalion, 21st
>Inf was doing on 10 and 11 July 50 and you will know what your brother was
>doing when he was killed.
>You can purchase a copy of Appleman's book from the U.S. Government
>Printing
>Office.
>Lacy Barnett
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Gernilee Carter Gramling" <cartergramling@msn.com>
>To: <abarnett@globalsite.net>
>Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 12:04 PM
>Subject: Re: July 1950
>
>
> > I called the Library and they are holding the book for me. I'd love to
>own
> > my own copy.
> > Where I am reading Appleman now is on line and the maps do not show
>up.
> > Can you help me out by giving me a breakdown of Units, i.e.
> > 3d Battalion had how many companys? And is there a certain number of
>men
> > always in a ballalion or company?
> > I'm still trying to figure out where Don was, what he was doing.
>I've
> > read the messages at the 21st Infantry Regiment Web Stie and an awful
>lot
>of
> > men were taken POW the same days he supposedly was MIA and then KIA.
>And
>my
> > family seems to think that there is not any remains in his grave, but
>only
> > his dog tags. I'm still trying to figure out if he really was killed or
>was
> > taken POW.
> > Is that a valid concern? Or if the records showd "duty to MIA' and
> > then a day later KIA, does that mean they actually found him?
> > Thanks - Gernilee, Don Carter's sister
> >
> >
> > >From: "Lacy C. Barnett" <abarnett@globalsite.net>
> > >To: "GerneyLee Carter" <cartergramling@msn.com>
> > >Subject: Re: July 1950
> > >Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:38:09 -0500
> > >
> > >Please look at the map on page 78, Appleman, to find Chochiwon
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: GerneyLee Carter
> > > To: Lacy C. Barnett
> > > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 7:29 AM
> > > Subject: Re: July 1950
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, thanks for the info. I am unable to locate Chochi'won on ANY
>map.
> > >Very frustrating.
> > >
> > > I am getting closer to being able to place Don at the time of his
>death.
> > > I feel I have it down to one of two situations. Either the atrocity,
> > >where the mortar men were executed, or the soliders in charge of the
> > >mortars and weapons who were overrun and killed by tanks at Chochi'won
>and
> > >lost wire then radio contact and then fell silent. Per Appleman's
>account
> > >As you referred to it.
> > >
> > > Gernilee Carter (Don's little sister) Company M
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Lacy C. Barnett
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 10:03 PM
> > > To: cartergramling@msn.com
> > > Subject: July 1950
> > >
> > >
> > > The battles on 9, 10, and 11 July 1950 did not take place at
>Ansong
> > >and Chonan. Those battles were at Chonui and Chochiwon. No, Company
>M,
> > >21st Inf was not a part of Task Force Smith. Task Force Smith
>disbanded
> > >late on 5 July or early on 6 July, and their battle took place at Osan.
> > > Reference for this: "South to the Naktong, North to the Yalu,"
>Roy
>E.
> > >Appleman, US Government Printing Office.
> > > Lacy Barnett
> > > abarnett@globalsite.net
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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