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Re: Learning more



Hi Janet!
   All that you say may be accurate, however according to the facts and 
events reported in Clay Blair's book, Turman had a pesonal hatred and 
distain for the military and its leaders. He felt personally very strongly 
about  hobbling them and haranguing them -  basically with money, but also 
lack of respect and due interaction.

     He may have been a practical, simple minded, common sense country boy 
and it sure did show when it came to the military.  Put simply:  he was 
jealous of West Point and Annapolis and other high achievers, and suspecious 
of higher education.

   This is an attitude that high school graduates can afford for a brief 
time, until they see the advantages not only in financial terms, but 
knowledge and networking that higher education affords those who through 
luck, birth or hard work have achieved it.

   One should not be prejudcious against college grads anymore than one 
should be prejudicious against high school only grads.  Both attutitudes 
show a lack of w isdom.

    Turman hurt our military and consequently the boys who arrived in Korea 
with his attitutde that he was superior just BECAUSE he did not have a 
college degree.

     GerneyLee Carter




>From: Janet Valentine <valent03@bellsouth.net>
>Reply-To: KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu
>To: KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu
>Subject: Re: Learning more
>Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 10:15:53 -0400
>
>Surely anger is a natural response when discovering the unpreparedness
>with which the US military entered the war.  But, it's useful to keep in
>mind that Americans have a long history of not wanting a large standing
>army in times of peace.  While reductions in force strength always worry
>military men, the majority of Americans tend not to get too worked up
>about cuts in the size of the military until after the fact - that 20/20
>hindsight we hear so much about.  During the Cold War years we became
>accustomed to a large military with fairly substantial (if not always
>entirely adequate) budgets.  That was an anomaly.  The deep post-war
>cuts, and the recent reductions in force are far more typical.
>
>Cheers,
>Janet V.
>
>Gernilee Carter Gramling wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for the recommendation.  I shall get it from the Library (or 
>buy
> > it!) .
> >    'reading Blair I am apalled that a) I know so little, and b) that 
>Truman
> > eviserated the military!  I have always thought of myself as a Truman
> > admirer.  My brother who is 62 took me to the train station and held me 
>on
> > his shoulders to see Truman.
> >    Well, after reading Blair's account of his treatment of the military 
>I
> > have, within 24 hours, developed this strong feeling in my chest that 
>can
> > only be called angry.
> >     Bear with me while I catch up - you all have to let me catch up on 
>51
> > years of history, but you sure are assisting me in so doing.
> >     See, even I who thought I KNEW about the Korean War, actually know
> > little!
> >       Keep the information and recommedations coming.
> >
> >      And thank you for being there then and here now!
> >            GerneyLee Carter (Don Carter's 3/21/24 sister)
> >
> > >From: "Jack Baker" <jbak@peganet.com>
> > >Reply-To: KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu
> > >To: <KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu>
> > >Subject: Re: Learning more
> > >Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 00:18:17 -0400
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Gernilee Carter Gramling" <cartergramling@msn.com>
> > >To: <KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu>
> > >Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 11:22 AM
> > >Subject: Learning more
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >     A man with whom I work just discovered I was reading Appleman - 
>he
> > >saw
> > > > it on my desk - and he ran upstairs and brought  back to me:
> > > >       "The Forgotten War - America in Korea 1950 -1953"
> > > >   by Clay Blair.
> > > >
> > > >         What are your comments on this book?
> > > > Any more books I should know about?
> > > >
> > > >         Thanks,
> > > >              GerneyLee Carter (Don Carter's 3d/21/24d sister)
> > >          I'm writing to recommend a book on the Korean War, THIS KIND 
>OF
> > >WAR, by T.R. Fehrenbach. While I don't recall that he specifically 
>mentions
> > >the actions which occurred, on Jul 10,11 & 12, involving Co M. 3/21, 
>his
> > >descriptions of the early days of the fighting, in Korea, are the very 
>best
> > >& most accurate that I have seen, in print The book will give you some
> > >degree of understanding in regard to what occurred, during that period. 
>I
> > >just checked BooksAMillion & the book is currently available, so you 
>may be
> > >able to obtain it from your Public Library. Best regards, jb
> > >_______________________________
> > >
> > >
> >
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