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Re: Special Ops and the Namsi Raid
Marty and John,
P.S.
the point of the hearings was to pass a resolution supporting the
Federal Government in negoiating with the North Koreans to repatriot MIAs
and locate any living POWs. It passed. Don't know what good it will do,
but anyway I wrote to ask my legislator to vote For it.
-GerneyLee Carter (Don Carter's Co.M,3d/21/24d
>From: "LTC John N. Duquette" <wrangler01@prodigy.net>
>Reply-To: KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu
>To: "KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu" <KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu>
>Subject: Re: Special Ops and the Namsi Raid
>Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:59:07 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Marty,
>
> > I ran this by a friend of mine who does AF research, here are his
>comments.
> > Marty
> >
><< Concerning the message you received from LTC John N. Duquette he
>mentions
> > the 307th Bomb Wing. The message left by M. Dean Keller mentioning
>Gerald
> > Emmett Johnson says Johnson was in the 19th Bomb Wing. There was
>another
> > Johnson with the first name of Johnny Menlo who was with the same outfit
>as
> > Gerald Emmett Johnson and was listed as MIA on the same day and
>presumed
> > dead on the same day. I do not know if they were in the same plane.
> > >>
>
>Good point on the 19th Bomb Wing--I missed that. You get so close to
>something and you miss some important details. Futrell's, The History of
>the United States Air Force says the 307th Bomb Wing flew the mission so I
>went down the road assuming all the squadrons came from that wing. Thanks
>for pointing that out.
>
>The three squadrons involved were the 370th, 371st and 372nd Bomb Squadrons
>(total of nine B-29s). My notes on the airplane Gerald Emmett Johnson
>[371st] was on are as follows:
>
>Aircraft 045, 371st Bomb Squadron
>Aircraft Commander: Capt. Robert M. Krumm
>Disposition: Shot down by MiG-15s 23 October 1951. Crash landed on mud
>flats of Korea Bay.
>
>Crew: 12 Men
>
>GALLANT JAMES ALVIN AF15295553 USAF Cpl E4 MIA
>HAYS MELVIN BLAINE AF39192109 USAF A1C E3 MIA
>HORNER JOHN JOSEPH AO-1911849 USAF 1Lt O2 MIA
>HUDSON LAURENCE HAROLD AO-2092806 USAF 1Lt O2 MIA
>JOHNSON GERALD EMMETT AF13337205 USAF A1C E3 POW
>JOHNSON JOHNNY MENLO AF18012759 USAF MSgt E7 POW
>KRUMM ROBERT MITCHELL AO-804464 USAF Capt O3 MIA
>MARSHALL ISREAL JR AF14353049 USAF A2C E2 KIA
>MCADOO ERNEST ROBERT AF13337425 USAF Sgt E5 MIA
>NUTTING JOHN MAINARD AO-685703 USAF Capt O3 KIA
>OSBORNE JESS ALEX JR AF13351603 USAF A1C E3 POW
>POYNOR CON FOLY AO-725476 USAF 1Lt O2 MIA
>
>Narrative: According to the navigator on Capt Fogler's aircraft diary, “@
>0944 just before bombs away the Migs came in and on first pass (at bombs
>away) they knocked out #2 & 3 men out…” I believe the “three men out” the
>navigator refers to are A1C Gerald E. Johnson, Flight Engineer Johnny M.
>Johnson and A1C Jesse A. Osborne. They were the only three crewmen of
>Krumm’s B-29 listed as POWs. That they became POWs implies that they
>parachuted over land shortly after bombs away, and were held with other
>prisoners who later identified them by name during debriefs of fellow POWs
>after the prisoner exchanges of Little Switch and Big Switch. They
>apparently died in prison camp, as their bodies were not returned. If we
>assume Keller’s email is accurate, then I believe aircraft 045 crashed in
>the mud flats of Korea Bay. Three bodies were found at the crash site.
>POW/MIA/KIA records indicate Capt. John M. Nutting, A2C Isreal Marshall,
>Jr., from Krumm’s aircraft were declared KIA on 10 December 1951. This
>implies that their bodies were found less than two months after the raid—on
>the mud flats of Korea Bay as Keller suggests? The status of all other
>MIAs from the Namsi mission were not changed to KIA until December 1953 and
>February 1954—over two years later and after the prisoner exchanges of
>Little Switch and Big Switch. The third body found on the mud flats cannot
>be unidentified from records that I have. What of the remaining seven
>MIAs? That they were not found with the wreckage of 045 implies that they
>bailed out. That the wreckage was found on mud flats and that no bodies of
>this crew were recovered from the water, implies that these crew members
>bailed out over land and captured. That no record of them occurs in
>returning POW debriefs implies that if they survived bail out, they did not
>survive long enough to make it to a POW camp. If we continue the trail of
>logic, one could conclude that North Koreans executed them shortly after
>capture. Keller’s email provides supporting evidence for this conclusion.
>
>v/r
>
>John
>
>
>
>
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