Learning to Remember Timothy McVeigh Yet?

["Vincent H. Bartning" <Bartning@prodigy.net>]

Hello all:

I can't send to the WWI list or they'd probably take me off, but I've only
learned to remember two men in my life.  They should have been alive now.
Would we have apprehension to the reason?  Would there be belligerent
anarchy?  Or would it be a mutiny?  How many more or less children would
there be in the world if somehow they were alive?  Am I be negative?

Some would call it a Resurrection.  Where will Mr. McVeigh be when he tells
about us on Judgment Day?  Will he tell about all the Iraqis he killed as
part of his orders?  Will he tell about the lies the federal government
makes every day while at least 6500 people die in our country?  Does that
include the aborted whose souls are lost according to some schools of
thought?

The execution of Timothy McVeigh would be as illegal as not allowing the
president to have his cabinet.  There's a 38-year tradition of not having
federal executions.  I'd like to see the law respected and Mr. McVeigh not
executed on Monday morning within a 100 miles of where my grandfather's
pieces lie.  However, if the death penalty's appropriate today, he'd
deserve it for killing 168 people on American soil, but it'd be illegal to
do it at the federal level.  We must make the federal government respect
the law and not murder him on Monday.  No matter what, we're going to have
to learn to remember Timothy McVeigh, but will you remember the names of
each individual victim he killed, including in Iraq?

Vincent Henry Bartning
Member, Board of directors for incorporation of a nonprofit to help
families of US KIA

grandson, John Wallace Rich, KIA 1944
first-cousin, once-removed, Louis E. Bartning, KIA 1951

"I hold that every American citizen has a right to form an opinion of the
constitution, and to propagate that opinion, and to use all honorable means
to make his opinion the prevailing one.  Without this right, the liberty of
an American citizen would be as insecure as that of a Frenchman." --
Frederick Douglas, "What to the Slave is the Fourth of July?" (1852)

"When you give power to an executive you do not know who will be filling
that position when the time of crisis comes."
Ernest Hemingway (1899-1961), U.S. author. "Notes on the Next War: A
Serious Topical Letter," in Esquire (New York, Sept. 1935; repr. in By-Line
Ernest Hemingway, ed. by William White, 1967).
Uncertainty

"Hesitation increases in relation to risk in equal proportion to age."
Ernest Hemingway (1899-1961), U.S. author. Quoted in: A. E. Hotchner, Papa
Hemingway, pt. 1, ch. 3 (1966 ed.).

"The first panacea for a mismanaged nation is inflation of the currency;
the second is war. Both bring a temporary prosperity; both bring a
permanent ruin. But both are the refuge of political and economic
opportunists."
Ernest Hemingway (1899-1961), U.S. author. "Notes on the Next War: A
Serious Topical Letter," in Esquire (New York, Sept. 1935; repr. in By-Line
Ernest Hemingway, ed. by William White, 1967).
Self-pity

"Forget your personal tragedy. We are all bitched from the start and you
especially have to be hurt like hell before you can write seriously. But
when you get the damned hurt use it-don't cheat with it."
Ernest Hemingway (1899-1961), U.S. author. Quoted in: Andrew Turnbull,
Scott Fitzgerald, ch. 14 (1962).
Spain and the Spanish

"Honor to a Spaniard, no matter how dishonest, is as real a thing as water,
wine, or olive oil. There is honor among pickpockets and honor among
whores. It is simply that the standards differ."
Ernest Hemingway (1899-1961), U.S. author. Death in the Afternoon, ch. 9
(1932).