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Re: no gun ri



One thing I learned the hard way a long time ago was to always consider the source of my information. You say the authors did a good job of research on the 7th Cav from the days of Custer and that supposedly proves that the Cav, a hundred years later, were inclined to do the same thing in Korea. Who are you trying to fool? But as I said, consider the source. Has anyone bothered to do the same careful research on the authors. What is their motivation? 
-----Original Message-----
From: ysk <ysk@kimsoft.com>
To: KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu <KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu>
Date: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: no gun ri

Soldiers are trained to kill and their commanders psych them up by demonizing the "enemy".
 
It is the commanders' job to make sure that their troops do not kill people who are not enemies.  In the Wounded Knee and the No Gun Ri massacres, the commanders failed to control their troops. 
 
In addition to the killing of women and children, the book in question describes US soldiers raping South Korean women and desecrating Korean ancestral burial items in the No Gun Ri area prior to the killing.  In the Wounded Knee Massacre, the 7th Cav troopers engaged in gross sexual acts as well (see the links below). 
 
  • http://www.pbs.org/weta/thewest/resources/archives/four/sandcrk.htm Sand Creek Massacre (PBS)
  • http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/wknee.htm  Wounded Knee Massacre
  • http://www.dickshovel.com/WKmasscre.html  Wounded Knee Massacre - Archives
  • http://www.tbwt.com/views/fancher/fancher_10-25-00.asp1The Shame Of The Buffalo Soldiers 
  • http://www.buffalosoldier.net/  BUFFALO SOLDIERS & INDIAN WARS      
     
    The book also mentions that judges in America given convicted criminals the option to join the Army or go to jail.  The book does not claim everyone in the 7th Cav was a criminal, but I wonder what percent of the 7th Cav troopers were convicted criminals.  
     
    The book mentions that Maj. Gen. Dean was the only senior commander who refused to allow killing civilians.  
     
     
     
     
    ysk
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 8:17 AM
    Subject: Re: no gun ri

    In a message dated 9/11/2001 6:32:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
    jrdennis@earthlink.net writes:


    .  A shot was fired, most likely from an Indian and the battery of
    guns and the other 7th Cavalry troops opened fire.  


    James,

    An interesting story!
    How similar these stories are bet. Wounded Knee & No Gun Ri!

    At No Gun Ri too, there was also some allegation that
    US troops were shot at from the refugees. However, the victims
    have said that there were no fire from them and even the
    Army investigation did not confirm that story. How story changes
    depending on who tells it!

    In any case, I don't want to give a wrong impression that
    we can conclude that No Gun Ri massacre took place
    because of Wounded Knee history. Of course, each
    incident should be investigated on its own merit.
    All I am saying is that the distressful past history of the 7th Cav.
    only reinforces our impression that another massacre may have took
    place at No Gun Ri.

    BTW, I read part of the book and found that the authors did
    some research on the past history of 7th Cav. and they
    included the Wounded Knee story in their book. I am glad that
    this info was included in the book.

    John2