Re: Submarine operations

[Donald McElfresh <a0019874@airmail.net>]

>From 1945 until 1955 the Soviet union had an operational submarine base in Port
Arthur, China, with twelve submarines in three classes, C, M and SHCHAH (Pike).
British intelligence identified that two of these submarines were transferred
to the North Koreans prior to the start of the Korean War. This was stated and
verified by three British authors, one of which was Cmdr. John R. P. Lansdown,
"With The Carriers In Korea, 1950-1953." The Chinese Naval Academy was
initiated in that area prior to the Korean War, with over 200 Chinese sailors
been submarine trained in the Spring of 1951 at Port Arthur.  In 1955 the base
was transferred from the Soviets to the Chinese; a number of the boats that
were there during the Korean War were included in the transfer. On July 28,
1951, approximately 120 miles northwest of Inchon there was an attack by 5 of 6
destroyer types on a submarine contact within 800 yards of TE-95.11 (including
the light carriers USS Sicily and HMS Glory).  The attack lasted 29 hours, with
a five mile long oil slick starting after the third attack with depth charges
and hedgehogs.  The target started at 100 feet and during the third attack went
to the bottom at 240 feet and didn't move again. A retired commander of the ROK
Navy recently provided information that an ROK Navy ROV had been on the
submarine in the period between September 1993 and 2000 (estimate), took
photos, video, and a later "visit" brought up pieces of the submarine.

Additionally, during the Korean War there a fair number of aerial submarine
sightings in the Chinnanpo and Yalu River mouth areas.

Don McElfresh

Mike Yared wrote:

> Did North Korean ever had a submarine during that time? Is there a Nk naval
> battle of order? BTW, China claimed they never lost a submarine. True?
>
> Mike Yared
>
> >From: <DGill11331@aol.com>
> >Reply-To: KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu
> >To: KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu
> >Subject: Re: Submarine operations
> >Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 09:02:17 EST
> >
> >When the 1st Marines went from Inchon to Wonsan, we went in a two column
> >convoy  of LSTs (mostly Japanese).  At night a few of us would go topside
> >and
> >watch for periscopes paralleling the convoy. I don't know who owned the
> >periscopes, but they were a common sight.   DGill
>
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