Re: Submarine operations

["Mike Yared" <mike_yared@hotmail.com>]

Thanks a lot, Don.
Mike


>From: Donald McElfresh <a0019874@airmail.net>
>Reply-To: KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu
>To: KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu
>Subject: Re: Submarine operations
>Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 12:27:56 -0600
>
> >From 1945 until 1955 the Soviet union had an operational submarine base 
>in Port
>Arthur, China, with twelve submarines in three classes, C, M and SHCHAH 
>(Pike).
>British intelligence identified that two of these submarines were 
>transferred
>to the North Koreans prior to the start of the Korean War. This was stated 
>and
>verified by three British authors, one of which was Cmdr. John R. P. 
>Lansdown,
>"With The Carriers In Korea, 1950-1953." The Chinese Naval Academy was
>initiated in that area prior to the Korean War, with over 200 Chinese 
>sailors
>been submarine trained in the Spring of 1951 at Port Arthur.  In 1955 the 
>base
>was transferred from the Soviets to the Chinese; a number of the boats that
>were there during the Korean War were included in the transfer. On July 28,
>1951, approximately 120 miles northwest of Inchon there was an attack by 5 
>of 6
>destroyer types on a submarine contact within 800 yards of TE-95.11 
>(including
>the light carriers USS Sicily and HMS Glory).  The attack lasted 29 hours, 
>with
>a five mile long oil slick starting after the third attack with depth 
>charges
>and hedgehogs.  The target started at 100 feet and during the third attack 
>went
>to the bottom at 240 feet and didn't move again. A retired commander of the 
>ROK
>Navy recently provided information that an ROK Navy ROV had been on the
>submarine in the period between September 1993 and 2000 (estimate), took
>photos, video, and a later "visit" brought up pieces of the submarine.
>
>Additionally, during the Korean War there a fair number of aerial submarine
>sightings in the Chinnanpo and Yalu River mouth areas.
>
>Don McElfresh
>
>Mike Yared wrote:
>
> > Did North Korean ever had a submarine during that time? Is there a Nk 
>naval
> > battle of order? BTW, China claimed they never lost a submarine. True?
> >
> > Mike Yared
> >
> > >From: <DGill11331@aol.com>
> > >Reply-To: KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu
> > >To: KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu
> > >Subject: Re: Submarine operations
> > >Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 09:02:17 EST
> > >
> > >When the 1st Marines went from Inchon to Wonsan, we went in a two 
>column
> > >convoy  of LSTs (mostly Japanese).  At night a few of us would go 
>topside
> > >and
> > >watch for periscopes paralleling the convoy. I don't know who owned the
> > >periscopes, but they were a common sight.   DGill
> >
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