Re: Soviet Aircraft Types in Korea

["Love Shack" <Home@DanSources.com>]

Hi Cookie:

I have about 2500+ hours on the Airwarior and Warbird sims.  They have sites
that compare AC performance. According to my books a light B29 may hit
350mph and the B26 375mph.
The La11 should have been able to outrun them, not unless its radar system
caused a lot of drag.That is if the La11 had a Radar system.  The F4U5 and
F82 had the same problem of drag with their Radar systems.

During WW2 the Japanese and other night airforces used cannibis(spelling?)
and other drugs to see at night.  Did the we do that too and did the
Koreans/Chinese/Russians use similiar drug to enhance night vision.  I do
know the La11 had 3-23mm cannon and reported they shot down a several B29's
and B26's.

I saw that the Mustangs, Corsairs and Skyraiders did fire on jets and prop
planes and held thier own.  Later version of detail indicate the Migs capped
a bunch of our prop fighters out of the air.  Most were reported as shot
down by groundbased fire.

Looking at Navy and British, SAAF losses they lost a pile of planes to
ground fire as well. And the Meteor was a big disappointment.  Seems the
F80C and F84E had a better chance of survival.

Dan

----- Original Message -----
From: <AMPSOne@aol.com>
To: <KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 8:17 PM
Subject: Soviet Aircraft Types in Korea


> Dan,
>
> There are a lot of myths about what aircraft were used in Korea.
>
> For the Soviets, they used two versions of the MiG-15 -- the original
> production model, MiG-15, and an improved version, the MiG-15bis. After
1951,
> just as many of the US Sabres were Es and then Fs, the Soviet units were
> primarily equipped with the bis.
>
> They used the La-11 for night fighting until they realized an empty B-26
or
> B-29 was faster than the La-11, and eventually switched to MiG-15bis night
> fighters (using ground radar and Mk. 1 eyeball target acquisition).
>
> Conversion training used the Yak-17UTI, one of which was shot down by an
> F3D-2 USMC night fighter in November 1952. The Soviets didn't admit it,
but
> it appears to have been the chief of aviation technical services of the
64th
> IAK up for a night flight -- no idea if it was a joy ride or he was going
to
> defect, but both the F3D-2 and a MiG-15bis night fighter spotted him and
open
> up on it simultaneously. Both initially claimed him as the other one!
>
> The Chinese got La-9 and La-11 fighters, MiG-9 and MiG-15/15bis fighters,
> Yak-17UTI trainers, and Tu-2 bombers. Only the Lavochkins, MiG-15s, and
Tu-2s
> saw combat.
>
> The KPAFAC got two regiments (43 each) of Yak-9D (late production all
metal
> versions of the WWII Yak-9 fighter), La-9 fighters to replace them, two
> regiments (43 each) of Il-10 shturmovik ground attack aircraft, and
> eventually 125 MiG-15/15bis fighters. They also had a mishmash of Po-2
> biplanes, Yak-11 trainers, Yak-12 liaison aircraft, and the entire
production
> run of Yak-16 twin-engine light transports. Most of them (less the MiGs,
> which came in late 1952) were toast after November 1950.
>
> Cookie Sewell
> AMPS
>
> PS The Soviets reckoned that a Sabre needed 10-12 23mm hits to be fatally
> damaged, but only 1-2 37mm hits. Most of the "37mm hits" in pictures are
> probably 23mm ones.