Re: To YSK: NK in Vietnam

["Diego Zampini" <dzampini@hotmail.com>]

Hi everybody.
I was who send the message with the statements (which is not mine, I wrote 
it as appeared in the document TFR 210, pages 2-32. It seems to be a summary 
of all the reports passed to the Russians by the North Vietnamese along 
1965-72). It does not mean that it had actually happened, but only that the 
Korean said that to the North Vietnamese during a mission debriefing.
I agree with Ed that it seems propaganda, and I personally would not take it 
seriously. But I also must mentionate that similar incidents were reported 
by Soviet and Vietnamese pilots along Korea and Vietnam Wars. Some of those 
incidents were:
- June 29 1953: the Heroe of the USSR during WW2 and CO of 676 IAP, Col. 
Ivan Gorbunov, was killed by a Sabre's machinegun fire while hanging on a 
parachute after had been shot down his MiG by an F-86. I personally give 
some reliability to such assertion. Due to at this time the Soviets had not 
admitted his presence in Korea, such event would be useless as propaganda.
- May 10 1972: one of the MiG-17 pilots reported as shot down by the US Navy 
F-4J Phantom pilots Lt.Randall Cunningham and Lt(jg) William Driscoll, was 
reported as killed by cannon fire while hanging in his parachute. Personally 
I doubt about it: the F-4J had no cannons, so it is impossible that such 
event had occured.
- March 24 1999: a Yugoslav MiG-29 pilot, Major Nebojsa Nikolic, downed by a 
F-15C seconds later after claiming to sahot down/hit a NATO plane (F-16?), 
reported being shoot by those F-15s while hanging in his parachute, survived 
due to the darkness. Probably Milosevic propaganda, but I would not 
understimate it anyway.
Despite that, in any case, it should not be a cause of special alarm. With 
only 4 or 5 events like that since the end of WW2, it seems to be a 
behaviour very unusual.
Just my 2 cents.
Diego.

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