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Re: Panther V Mig Redux
>Williams' Panther BuNo. 125459 suffered class damage code d-2, >restored to
>service. Your info means overall type score was: Panther >4, MiG 1,
>admitted total loss each side. Easier than Saber-MIG!
Certainly the Phanter pilots gain the upper hand in Nov 1950 and 1952, a
testimony of his good training and skills.
But from my point of view it is premature to establish the margin of
superiority. On July 21 1951, when the MiG-15 pilot Boris Abakumov (196th
IAP, 324th IAD) shot down the F9F of 1st Lt. Richard Bell (POW), several
other Soviet pilots claimed kills, and despite I don't think 6 more kills
were scored, I have serious reasons to believe that at least 2 more F9Fs
were shot down that day (both by the MiG-15 of the unit's commander, Col.
Yevgeni Pepelyayev). Apparently in both cases the wreckages were found (with
their pilots killed in their cockpit) and in one of them they found a serial
number: "109I405116". Such details are mentioned in the 1059 document of
Addittionaly, many F9F losses match in date with Soviet claims of 'F-84' or
'F-80' kills (the Soviet pilots usually missidentified the Panthers with
Thunderjets and Shooting Stars), and despite such losses are offically
credited at flak fire or a failed pull after a bomb diving, it must be noted
that the loss of the F-84Es of Bernard Seitzinger on Oct.8 1951 and James
Wills on Apr.12 1953 were originally credited to such causes, when they were
actually shot down by MiG-15 pilots (Col. Pepelyayev and Capt. Semyenov
respectivelly). Similar circumstances could be told about Panther losses.
Despite that, it is clear that the clear technical superiority of the MiG-15
against the Panther, regarding the key factor (pilots' skills) the Panther
pilots had an edge against most of MiG pilots.
Just my 2 cents,
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