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RE: Mustangs vs Il-10s, Yaks and MiG-15s
What term did you mean "They did not go first class"?
My impression is the same as your.
The Mig was Quicker and easier to maneuver, just like you said.
I cannot understand why the US version that the Saber was a better fighter
It reminds me of the Warhawk and Zero comparison.
The Later Zero and P40N or L may have been closer
but the Zero was a better overall dogfighter much like the Mig to the Sabre.
The Saber was 1 to 2 tons heavier and pilot reports the A model Saber
Still do not quite know why the F model was better the the Mig?
MHO. American sports may have made a difference.
How we do things in play.
March 1908 NYTimes said Soccer was the biggest and fastest growing game game
in America because of all of the immigration. That was before before WW1.
After WW1 Baseball, Basketball and American Football all replaced
Soccer as the number one sport. All were big team sports. There were a few
other smaller games played. This country played all the Native, Immigrant
and American born games here is the USA. We seemd to have all the team
sports that require different skills. We play more team sports then any
What is your opinion or follow up?
[mailto:owner-KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu]On Behalf Of
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: Mustangs vs Il-10s, Yaks and MiG-15s
Jack Broughton in "Fifteen Sams for Geeno". (Jack was leader of the USAF
demonstration team Thunderbirds for a number of years. He was a fighter
in Korea and Vietnam)
Yes, Geeno got 15 Sams in one raid in Nam. Things were moving at
speed and the strike force was at work. There was no faltering, no
hesitation, just deadly split-second precision work. You don't look for
anybody else and you don't think about anybody else during these seconds
your ass belongs to Uncle Sam. Each one understands that, but they don't
particularly care to dwell on it. The strike was a beauty and everyone got
out. Everyone, that is, except Geeno... the fighter pilot commander who bet
his life that he could knock out the toughest guns in the world and save his
buddies. (we talked about the Sams and the USAF pilot heros a few months
But back to Korea...
Diego, here is what Jack has to say about MiG. He says that he doesn't
think you will find a truely professional fighter pilot who would not sell
his front seat in Hell to be a MiG squadron commander in the face of an
American fighter-bomber attack. Because they were lighter, they were faster,
could accelerate faster and could turn better. He said that they could have
murdered us if they did the job properly.
They didn't go first class and our guys were both good and dedicated. I
guess that was the difference.
He said he had been on the low end of odds as high as 16 to 2... and
that's pretty lousy. He said he was hung up for 23 minutes, an almost
of time period for aerial combat even in the early days of Korea when this
occurred. They didn't scratch him only because their cannon couldn't hit the
round side of a board.
The secret to our high kill ratio...you tell me. I guess the air-to-air
result reports from our guys is a good indication.