Re: Are there any views from Flight Mechanics Russia/USA/China/NK/SK/UN

["Diego Zampini" <dzampini@hotmail.com>]

Joe:

<<For example on 2/10/52 when the American ace George Davis was shot down, 
the formation believed to have made the kill flashed by sporting thin 
red-white-red stripes around the nose, I understand Davis' loss could be 
matched with either Russian or Chinese claims.>>

Both Russians and Chinese disputes Davis' shootdown. The Russians credited 
it to a MiG-15 pilot of 148 GIAP, 97 IAD; Mikhail A. Averin. The Chinese do 
so to Chi-Wei-Chang. I bet for the Russian pilot (I consider the Russians a 
little bit more reliable that the Chinese) but I could be wrong.

<<1/6/52 Evans barely escaped black nosed MiG's; 11/2/51 the opponents had 
red tails; exceptions he noted to red noses.>>

On January 6 1952 was the day when Nikolai Sutyagin (17 IAP) shot down the 
F-84 of Grey and the F-86 of Stahl, and I know that besides Sutyagin one 
pilot of 196 IAP and another of 18 GIAP claimed an F-86 kill each. The 196 
IAP used red-nosed MiGs (Pepelyayev's "325" is the top sample) so I guess 
the MiG which jumped Evans could be the one from the 18 GIAP. Do you 
(Cookie, Danz) know something else?

<<One of his victories is also interesting compared to Russian records. 
10/26/51 he and his wingman Claude Mitson were credited the only victories 
of the day in an isolated low altitude combat. Evans' got guncamera film of 
an ejection (that the group cheered at film review next night) and Mitson 
confirmed Evan's sighting of the parachute; Mitson's target dove steeply 
into a low undercast. The Russian record as I understand (Cull "With the 
Yanks", Polak "Stalins' Falcons") is Shebanov (their first jet ace) 
disappeared into clouds after attack by an F-80, wreckage found by the 
Chinese (with him in it, seemed implied). Given the lack of embellishment 
elsewhere in the book I tend to believe Evan's account of the film making it 
hard to square unless Evans and Mitson engaged Chinese MiGs and Shebanov was 
lost elsewhere to an uncredited claimant, or another Russians was also shot 
down, or other Russian accounts point to Shebanov dying despite bailing 
out.>>

"Red Devils" of Seidov/German states that Douglas Evans and Claude Mitson 
shot down F.Shebanov and B.Kordanov on October 26 1951, but not neccesarily 
in such respective order. Probably Evans shot down Kordanov (who ejected and 
landed safely) and Mitson killed Shebanov.
Just my 2 cents.
Diego.

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