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RE: MiG pilots got worse
For the most part you are right. The old history books are wrong.
Except the official Military archives on Korea are open, after 50 years, and
verify everything I have said. The Russians have opened their documents and
the historians are evaluating and rewriting the data. Our Pilots are
verifiying much the same data the Russian pilots are stating.
What we thought was a lost in action from ground fire was actually shot by a
Surprise, surprise...they had sucessful tactics.
Basically we got our asses kicked as good as we gave. The US lost some 5000
aircraft in Korea and the Russians claim some 1300 shot down. Go read some
new data. There are books about every Nation in WW2 and on Korea and about
every aircraft in each theator of operation.
Both sides painted exciting stories about how each shot down thousands of
Every air group did the same thing. When the data is compared, each side
knew who they lost, but rarely knew who they shot down.
There is one book to read that fill you in on reality. Flying tigers by Dan
The old history books say they shot down 300/299/289 Japanese aircraft in 6
Documentation and written accounts can only stretch this to 120. No surprise
Our government and others always paint the rosy side. Same thing is
happening today in Afghanistan. 50 years from now the real details will come
out. That is if we still have a true Democracy.
[mailto:owner-KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu]On Behalf Of
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:31 PM
Subject: RE: MiG pilots got worse
In a message dated 3/20/02 6:13:01 PM, DanFahey@DanSources.com writes:
<< History Channel is using old data....We were rarely outnumbered.
Except they had more Migs then we had Sabers. But that is the only case.
Hey Dan et all-
I keep hearing this, all the history books in English are wrong, Air
and United Nations official figures are wrong, eye witness accounts from
American pilots are all wrong...and now the History Channel is "out of
Give me a break!