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RE: Frost Bite never goes away?
Thanks..I appreciate that..
I am enjoying learning this stuff.
Sincerely
DF
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu
[mailto:owner-KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu]On Behalf Of GerneyLee Carter
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:54 AM
To: KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu
Subject: Re: Frost Bite never goes away?
DF,
you're right I didn't read the email closely. You were camping out for two
weeks (a civilian). I didn't mean to offend you. I simply wanted to know if
you were in Korea during the war as a civilian what role you played....
Also the comment on being civilized in answering John2's question about
frost bite was not meant to offend. I just thought it was a blunt, rude
question - but the rest of you didn't. So anyway I was not implying
anything negative - sorry you got that impression, and hope I've corrected
it.
:) GerneyLee
----Original Message Follows----
From: Love Shack <Home@DanSources.com>
Reply-To: KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu
To: KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu
Subject: Re: Frost Bite never goes away?
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 20:36:43 -0500
Hold your horses GernyLee..
Read my email closely.. I was born 1951. I was training for climbing a
mountain 25 years ago in West Virginia. I was answering a comment by
another poster. I have as much right to comment on this post as you do.
Regarding those who had frostbite the US Army was ignorant of the
fighting conditions and did not prepare our troops until much later in
the war with suitable gear. Some got frostbite more then others because
that was how they were made.
Some could with stand the cold better then others. If it were a steamy
island others could withstand the heat better. Just the way it is.
Just stating some fact and experiences.
Part of my experience was experimenting with new materials. However, I
am one of those people who sweat a lot and can get into trouble if not
aware of my body chemistry on cold freezing days.
Today you have by breathable warm clothing that will not let water build
up and cause you to feel cold. Not only that it is lightweight. Neat
stuff...Up until 5 years ago the Civilian population had better longer
lasting and more durable cold weather gear then the military.
DF
GerneyLee Carter wrote:
> Dan, what do you mean civilian? You were there for two weeks in the
> middle of the war as a civilian, a civilian what? Reporter? Well, you
> were very civilized to answer the question about frost bite and its
> affects of living on forever. It would be safe to the make the
> assumption that everyone who survived that bitter cold Korean War
> months has the same results. There is so much we who didn't
> experience do not know and will never know. This mail list is very
> valuable for making attempts at trying to learn and live it with you
> guys who were there.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Love Shack
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 9:48 PM
> To: KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: Gen. Bradley
> John asked a valid question..
> Only problem he has not seen a lot...nor appear to have much
> experience.
> Sometimes I get the same feeling he is on a fishing trip,
> too.
>
> I have camped a few time once in cold weather for two weeks.
> It reached below 20 degrees at several points. I was a
> wonderful experience involving a winter surivial camp. The
> trainers included a few military vets showing us the ropes.
>
> Korea was much colder and longer for the troops. My
> experience was civilian and knew it was for two weeks.
> Korean nights were miserable. I believe the latitude is the
> same as Nova Scotia and Canada. I think they had colder
> temps.
>
> US troops were not equipped with winter gear, especially in
> the beginning. Food was short and they were always hungry.
> One of the problems of cold weather is that you need to eat
> a lot of food. You use a lot of calories in cold weather.
> If you are not eating your body makes less heat making it
> harder to stay warm. On top of that you cannot eat the snow
> for water. I bet fires were not available to front line
> troops.
>
> I got frost bite, and I got it bad. Anyone who gets it will
> feel it again everytime it gets cold. Sometimes with
> extreme pain. Mine has subsided over last 10 years. You
> know when Winter comes...John2....go camping and get a
> little dirt on you.
>
> Dan Fahey
>
>
>
> GerneyLee Carter wrote:
>
> > RE: john2's last two posts, the one below and the
> > wonderful: what phyical affects did your frost bite
> > have? I know - I got it! John2 is not a person, he is
> > an automated response system of questioner of some
> > sort....:) GerneyLee - in any event I'm glad you are all
> > talking again. I missed you all when you were silent.
> > Ralph sent me the party pictures, not so sure they should
> > be put on line. Feminists el al would not be happy.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jhk789@aol.com
> > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 5:59 PM
> > To: KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu
> > Subject: Re: Gen. Bradley
> > In a message dated 3/28/2002 7:55:30 PM Pacific
> > Standard Time, RonaldS842@aol.com writes:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Those who called it "wrong war at the wrong
> > > place at the wrong time",
> > > failed to comprehend that the truely just wars
> > > are fought, not because they
> > > are convenient, but because a failure to
> > > resist, a failure to fight, would be
> > > morally wrong.
> >
> > Ron,
> >
> > You sound so self-confident of your judgment
> > whether you
> > fought a right war. Just remember "beauty is in
> > the eye of the beholder."
> > I am sure North Koreans would argue they were
> > fighting a just war of
> > national liberation. (The same goes for
> > Vietnamese)
> >
> > BTW, were there any US military officers who
> > were critical
> > of the US role in the Korean War?
> >
> > John2
> >
Regards, Gernilee
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