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Re: Rewriting History



   I don't know about the rest of y'all, but once our company literally ran for our lives.
   The advance to the Yalu was swift. Large units moved quickly up the road, often by truck, leaving pockets of North Koreans behind. It was our job to fight these overlooked enemies. We never knew if we were going up against a squad or a battalion.
   Once we marching up the road, and we saw a small group of men coming down a hill toward us. We were ordered to drop our packs on the road and advance to meet them. It turned out this wasn't just a squad, they were point men for a larger unit. A MUCH larger unit. When we came under fire our officers realized we were badly outnumbered, and ordered us to retreat. We were literally trotting along a ridge, while the enemy was trotting along ridges on either side of us, trying to head us off, and encircle us. Machine guns and mortars, along with their tripods and base plates were passed up and down the line, so we all took our turn carrying them.
   To make a long story a little longer, we made it back to where some Marines in a tank, mounted with twin forty millimeter guns, and a jeep mounted with quad fifty caliber machine guns had set up a road block. When those jarheads cut loose on them with with that fire power those that lived quickly found other places to be.
   Sure we ran. The object of retreating is to prevent the waste of lives. With only one man wounded, we achieved this objective. Had we been ordered to stand and fight, I have doubt we would have done so.     
 
 
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Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: Rewriting History

Mr. Mead,

 Per your request that I present info concerning the involvement of the 65th in the Chosin Battle outside of the perimeter: please see map at -----

 "http://www.chosinreservoir.com/chosinwithdraw6-11.htm"

 In addition to the location of the 2d bn. 65th, please note location of TF Dog and the arrows noting their attack northward.  Hungnam is a few miles south.  I will go through my collection of materials and pull up portions that describe the actions of the 65th, especially the 2nd bn.  The role of TF Dog has long been overlooked.

 As to the Treadway Bridge, I believe that I said that TF Dog was just south of said bridge. I apologize if I said otherwise. The 65th was further south at Sudong.  The various divisions of X-Corps began their orderly retreat towards Hungnam after the Marines march through their lines.  Units of the 3rd div were the last to embark.

 My reference to men retreating at various times was in reference to tactical situations, not entire regiments or divisions. Veterans in Korea often speak of more than often facing superior, in numbers, enemy forces. In some situations it was prudent to retreat. I am talking about a retreat which enabled then to consolidate and then attack again.  I still have a question as to what really happened at Jackson Heights. My understanding is that the 90+ men did not run from an enemy attack.  The just turned around and walked back, I know this will be unacceptable explanation. But I can't offer a better one because I am still trying to understand what happened.  You also have to know what was happening to the unit around that time.  You should also be aware that shortly before Jackson Heights a company of 100-men of the 65th were whipped out in their attempts to hold a position.  A few wounded were able to roll down the hill to safety.

 You better than I should know that sometimes things are not as they appear, especially in war.

 Take of yourselve.                   Jose
 

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