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Re: Dan Rather
In 1985 I was worked on DoD initiatives to teach new recruits to read and
write and understand math.
I ws in a DoD seminarlearning about New Look and specs written to Mil Std
63000.
Those that were educated in WW2 were highly valued.
The most important invention of the 20th century was the pump.
If you look at the African American the US Services was the
only place to learn professional management outside of a college.
In all minority ranks after Korea there was a spike of professional
types both Technical and Management.
The interesting thing about the US in war was that we had good Leadership
programs.
The Axis in WW2 had a lot of Leadership problems when the Leader was killed
everything stopped.
Despite that quality of the US Soldier to pick up the ball.
Concepts on how to Fix Something broken were tough even if you were
literate.
70% of the popluation was literate by Vietnam..however, it was most of the
30% who were not Literate were the ones that got DRAFTED.
You can show anyone how to fix something.
You cannot always give a person something to read and get it fixed.
Public Education was modivated by the DoD to have a literate Armed Forces.
Exactly in the same way we have an Interstate highway system....
Airlines, Railroad and many other systems.
Public Education was never intented as a Social Experiment.
But there are a whole lot of people in Politics trying to dumb down the
Public Education system
----- Original Message -----
From: "swan" <swan@haysco.net>
To: <KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: Dan Rather
> Let us consider was invented, created, and produced by people educated
under
> "primitive" conditions.
>
> Automobiles, and all types of aircraft, including jets. Radio, and
> television, including color TV. Computers, space ships, and all kinds of
> immunizations, and medical procedures. Fiberglass shingles, and nail guns
> plus the air compressors that operate these guns. The list of things are
> almost endless.
>
> Bob Dove
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Love Shack" <Home@DanSources.com>
> To: <KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 12:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Dan Rather
>
>
> > That maybe true for well organized cities large and small.
> > But most of the country had very poor eucation systems in the 30's
> > There was a depression on an lots of people moving around trying to
> survive.
> > One one room school houses were normal. In fact into the 70's in few
parts
> > of the USA.
> >
> > Public Education and Literacy rates were vastly improved during WW2.
> > This included many WW2 Vets using the GI Bill to go to College.
> > These guys became the Technical and Management experts for the DoD
> industry
> > before and after Vietnam.
> >
> > Things have changed so much.
> > What use to be Mining Country in the 90's are Ski and Camp Resorts.
> >
> > We just forget..
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "GerneyLee Carter" <cartergramling@msn.com>
> > To: <KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 12:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: Dan Rather
> >
> >
> > > Bob,
> > > Ed, forgive me, I know this is off topic, but I have to back Bob
up
> > > here. My parents were both 8th grade graduates and they were better
> > > educated in a liberal arts track as well as math then current college
> > > graduates I encounter.
> > > Gernilee
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Donald McElfresh <a0019874@airmail.net>
> > > >Reply-To: KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu
> > > >To: KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu
> > > >Subject: Re: Dan Rather
> > > >Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:17:15 -0500
> > > >
> > > >Swan, I think you are directing your response to "Love Shack," not
me.
> I
> > > >only commented regarding the people I shared 1950-53 with.
> > > >
> > > >Don
> > > >
> > > >swan wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Don, I really don't know where you get your figures, but Texas
has
> > > > > required mandatory attendance until age 16 for as long as I can
> > > > > remember. Do you honestly think that 65% of the people my age are
> > > > > illiterate? Actually, our tenth grade dropouts were better
educated
> > > > > than many graduates are today. Bob Dove
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Love Shack
> > > > > To: KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu
> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 8:07 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Dan Rather
> > > > > Absolutely agree...Choices were different
> > > > > For a short time during the Depression in the 30's if you
> > > > > enlisted as an officer you could only stay in for four
> > > > > years. Literacy rates in the US before WW2 were 20%.
> > > > > By Korea 35% By Vietnam 70%. Now we are approaching 90% in
> > > > > the US
> > > > >
> > > > > DF
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Donald McElfresh wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Comment:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The first year (and probably more) of the Korean War
> > > > > > ("Police Action") was fought by Regulars (often 20 year
> > > > > > men who were Depression holdovers with no place to go),
> > > > > > National Guard and Reservists. In 1950 being a Reservist
> > > > > > or in the Guard (or a Regular) was nothing to be ashamed
> > > > > > of.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Don.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Love Shack wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > At least Rather got to Vietnam.. Quayle and Bush did
> > > > > > > not...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > DF
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > SDonell73@aol.com wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> In a message dated 8/7/02 9:01:19 PM Pacific Daylight
> > > > > > >> Time, ChosinMead@aol.com writes:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > Bob, I couldn't agree more. But I am under the
> > > > > > >> > impression that Rather was in the Marine Corps?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Lee,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> You are correct. I looked it up last night. He remained
> > > > > > >> in college until the Korean War was over and then
> > > > > > >> joined the Marines.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Sandy
> > > > > > >>
> > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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