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Re: 40mm AA Guns on Half-Track Vehicles



I was reading a series of articles and letters in Marine Corp Gazzette earlier this year about squad size. The 3 fire team squad was adopted in March 1944 and remains to this day (other weapons substituting for the BAR as squad automatic after the late '50's of course). Whereas the Army has experimented continuously and adopted different size squads in different type units in recent decades. 
 
The article and letters debated changing it now (or adopting a more fleixble approach depending on situation and transport means). An opponents of changing after discussing the ability of the bigger squad to continue its mission after casualties said: "the US Army may not be able to connect squad size to combat perfomance but the disastrous defeat of Army units in Korea in 1950 was in part attributable to infantry units undersized and understrength". Clay Blair also mentions the 3 BAR firepower of the 13 man squad in "Forgotten War" discussing the success of the Provisional Marine Brigade in the Perimeter battles.
 
It's interesting, the influence of the Korean experience on a professional debate like that even now. Not to stir up Army/MC stuff BTW, by quoting a frank and opinionated Marine.
 
Joe
 
 
Joe
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Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: 40mm AA Guns on Half-Track Vehicles

In a message dated 9/3/2002 1:18:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bballow@motion.net writes:


About the only thing that made sense to me was adding the second BAR to the squad


In Korea a marine squad was made up of three 4 man fire teams. Each fire-team had one BAR, one assistant BAR-man, a rifleman amd a fire-team leader and a squad leader.  Three BARS to a squad. Don Gill