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Re: 1st MarDiv to Korea by back channel



I heard the same about this happening to the Army..
 
DF
----- Original Message -----
From: unclgene
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 4:24 PM
Subject: RE: 1st MarDiv to Korea by back channel

Soldiers loved to have marines be nearby. We stole them blind and they never figured it out.
 
Gene 6-Pack
 
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From: owner-KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu [mailto:owner-KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu]On Behalf Of Love Shack
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:49 PM
To: KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu
Subject: Re: 1st MarDiv to Korea by back channel

My Uncle went into the Marines after Korea...
There always seemed to be a special pride about being a Marine then regular Army...
Though there are some Army Group that seems equivalent.
 
I can see it in the employees I have hired. The Army is OK.. 
Seems the requirement for Marines are different.
The Troops look more fit and organized.
 
YET I remember the controversy and discussion with my Uncle
that the Marines were like a basterd organization that seems to fit no where.
 
In Vietnam where Marine Units and Army units went out on joint missions
there was a competition but with gritting cooperation.
I suspect there was some of this in Korea.

DF
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 2:59 PM
Subject: 1st MarDiv to Korea by back channel

Being new to the group, I'm not sure that this has been brought up or not. So, here is the story of how the Marines got involved in the Korean conflict.

During the years following WWII, the Marine Corps had to fight for its very existence. The existence of the Corps was saved by Public Law, by friends in Congress. But there was continuous action dealing with cuts in resources for the Marine Corps, to bring it to the point of extinction, primarily by SecDef Louis Johnson.

After the Korean Conflict broke out, the Commandant offered MacArthur a reinforced regiment and attached Marine Aircraft Group, Mac was thrilled with this amphibious trained unit. But, this was accomplished only by scraping together individual Marines.some reserves and support units from all over the world.

On July 4th 1950, General Clifton Cates, the Commandant, ordered Lt General Lemuel Shepherd, CG FMFPAC to go to MacArthur and try to sell him on the idea of a full Marine Division with attached Marine Aircraft Wing. Mac was ecstatic about the idea, as it fit in with his plans for an amphibious invasion to break the back of the N Koreans closing in on Pusan. He immediately contacted the JCS who had been part of the Corpsicide, and requested that they send the suggested Marine Corps units.

The JCS dithered for about four weeks before agreeing that they could allow this. The Marine ground forces had to call up all of their organized reserve units, and steal personnel and units from 2nd MarDiv which was slated for duty in the Middle East if a war with the Soviets should break out. The necesary aviation units were better off as they had enough reserves to provide fillers for existing squadrons, and to establish three new squadrons of fighter-bombers.

However, the Division was sent to Korea with only two rifle regiments instead of the usual three. But the 7th Marines which made up the third rifle regiment, was able to be assembled by further scraping of the resource barrel and stealing a battalion that was cruising in the Med. So the Inchon landing was accomplished as a great success, with the 7th Marines following a few days later.

The attempted elimination of the Marine Corps, by Truman's henchman, SecDef, Louis Johnson was halted, and he was sent packing.

The rest, as they say is history.

Sandy