Re: MacArthur [Was: Slow period for list]

[Robert <wanaki@infi.net>]

Robert wrote:

You err in your conclusions about Korea...........Korea was the first Political Limited War, with the primary mission being to repel the NKPR from the south. America was indeed unprepared, because the Liberal Democrats had cut the Military to the bone, even contemplating the ellimination of the Marine Corps. But if you think the lack of preparedness infected all the US Armed Forces, study the battles of the understrength Marine Brigade that landed at Pusan in August of 1950. Thier performance there, and the landing at Inchon assured that the Marine Corps would remain the nations force in readiness.

Robert
Love Shack wrote:

I get the feeling the books on MacArthur are gentle on his decisions.

The Dutch during WW2 were in the Pacific area as well.
They seemed better prepared to fight the Japanese then the Americans.
The air combat records show this and that the Dutch fought with Distinction
Reading about their Air Combat leads me to believe that the Americans
ignored provacations by the Japanese.

We were caught on the Ground in the Phillipines.
There was no LOGICAL rotation of aircraft or preparation for an attack.
The one time we were in the air against the Japanese wiped us out
on one large air battle. That is just BAD planning for a Professional
Soldier.

Your opinion to Sandy seems to defend Mac's lack of Readiness.
IMO... he did the same thing in Korea...
YEah, he did some things right
BUT he  does not have the combat instincts that were comparable to a Patton
or Rommel.

Again we were caught in Korea.....BLINDLY unprepared....
and held to a draw.

Diego earlier discloses that we got our BUTTs kicked in the Air War as well.
All the early books on Korea are crap.  I am confused as to what really when
on.

IMO MacArthur made the same structural mistakes he did in WW2
that put us behind the 8-Ball....

Regarding my Vietnam comment .. we made the same structural logic
that got us caught in that war as well.

This is what I am getting out of the new Information on WW2 and Korea.

I side with those that write about what happened that fits the RESULTS.
Thereby adding up what the original Intentions were.

What you REALLY intended is your RESULTS

DF





----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc James Small" <msmall@infi.net>
To: <KOREAN-WAR-L@raven.cc.ku.edu>
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: MacArthur [Was: Slow period for list]


At 11:38 AM 12/20/02 -0500, Love Shack wrote:
  

  IMHO it sounds like MAC Ghost is with us  AGAIN... Sandy :      be all
to filled with Bluster. It was strange how the Dutch managed to battle the
Japanese and the USARMY AF    Yeah they finally got wiped out but they made
a  good accounting of what they had for resources. MAC and the Phillipines
have far more aricraft and  resources to defend with.   Yet history
FORGIVES MacArthur.. IMO this attitude also prevailed in  Vietnam..   You
added up a lot about how we got hit, suposedly  by surprise, by the Chinese
Making the Korean war a real "pit" of a  fight. Something that could have
been avoided or stopped  quickly with some common sense.   Then you can
take the MacArthur story, going back  further to  Anacostia where he wiped
out the WW1  Protesters.
    

Uh, could you put the above into an intelligible form?  When you do, I
shall respond!

Marc

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