At 08:00 PM 12/20/02 -0700, Robert wrote:on the way up to the Resevoir, THAT"S INTELLIGENCE. When they informed Almond, THATS INTELLIGENCE. And what the hell do you think Marine Recon isfor.Speak to issues you understand, or where you've had some experience.I didn't have to read Blairs half complete tome......... I did, even though I helped fight that damn war, and he didn't know or tell the half of it. Now, go back to school, and this time, pay attention."IT ISN'T WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW THAT GETS YOU IN TROUBLE; IT'S WHAT YOU KNOW THAT DEFINITELY AINT SO."Robert You are, I fear, hopelessly confused. This thread was discussing the strategic and operational intelligence picture developed by the CIA and DoD in September and October and November, not the tactical intelligence picture developed by front-line units. And, in any event, the capture of Chinese troops in late November was reported by X Corps and FEC to Washington. Washington instructed FEC to ignore these captures, as the Washington spin was that these were merely "advisors" or "observers". And FEC was, of course, required to rely upon the IPB prepared by the CIA under the doctrine of the era, a mistake later repeated in Viet-Nam. Whether you were there or not is irrelevant when you appear to be unaware of the basic facts and refuse to accept the manner in which the intelligence flow worked in 1950 in the US military. Marc msmall@infi.net FAX: +276/343-7315 Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir!