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Dan, how Dare you call the NG Boy Scouts!
It's SOBs like yourself (who has probably never pointed an M1 at a
Chink & pulled the trigger or had the pleasant task of sweating out a
mortar/artillery barrage or one of the many facets of Combat) that DO NOT KNOW a
thing about the Nat'l Guard and are Totally un-qualified to judge
same.
You call W and Q "Silver Spoons" who hid in
the NG. Ever fly a Jet fighter? W did and proudly served his time
and would have had to go if his unit was Activated. Ever hear of ANY
Fighter Pilot who refused to fight? You suggest you were in VN but are you
sure you weren't in Canada for the war's duration? Most cowards took a
Northern vacation for a few years to avoid going to war. How were things
in Toronto back then?
As for Ted Williams, he will Always be an American
hero!
To enlighten you, most Air National Guard units
were formed after WW2 by using Re-Treads (by order and/or enlistment) as a
Nucleous on which to build . Same for the Army. Also, when the NG units
were called into Active Duty during the KW they usually received a surge of
enlistees.... vets, draft-eligibles, students, affluents, influentials,
professionals, etc., etc., What was your niche in life at that
point?
Since you dinegrate the Country's National
Guardsmen as "Boy Scouts" please read up on your history to find out what
they have done for the Red, White, & Blue. If that doesn't satisfy you
let me know and I'll furnish you a list of survivors and families from my NG
unit who were KIA or POW . Then you can tell them their son, husband,
brother, uncle, etc. that you think he was a Boy Scout and not worthy of serving
his country. I'm sure the answers would be very interesting.
Until then, keep your cowardly thoughts to
yoursef. No, I can't say that as I honor the First Ammendment and want
everyone to hear you and make their own judgements of you. I apologize for
going off the deep end but Hoss, Your're Walking On The Fighting Side of Me with
your unfounded, untrue statements which cannot be substantiated.
Bill Scott
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 12:02
PM
Subject: Re: National Guard
IT was Draft Dodging by HOW they got put in the
National Guard
Ted Williams served in WW2, then joined National
Guard. Then fought in Korea.
Ted Williams FOUGHT.. the pretty boys kepted
thier pretty faces.
There is NO Comparison to the sacrifice Mr. Ted
Williams did
and what GwB and Quayle got away
with.
One of the many
fradulent things that went on during the Vietnam CONFLICT
The two silver spoons were politically
appointed to the NG.
Everyone knew that in 1968 and know about it
now.
This was a big angry rage withthe American public
back then.
Yet, they were not the only congressmen sons
who were picked for the Boy Scouts
BY putting Ted Williams and comparing those
two "wet ones" is damn shameful.
You have defined what a man is and what boys are.
Gwb and DQ are BOYS..
Dan Fahey
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:49
AM
Subject: Re: National Guard
Excellent point Gene.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:34
PM
Subject: RE: National Guard
When people denigrate the National Guard service of Bush or
Quayle I always
told them to tell Ted Williams that National Guard
service was draft
dodging.
Gene
-----Original
Message-----
From: owner-KOREAN-WAR-L@listproc.cc.ku.edu
[mailto:owner-KOREAN-WAR-L@listproc.cc.ku.edu]On
Behalf Of Mike Yared
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:27 AM
To: KOREAN-WAR-L@listproc.cc.ku.edu
Subject:
National Guard
A Very Long Weekend: The Army National Guard in
Korea,
1950-1953
By William Berebitsky
The White Mane Publishing
Company, Inc., P.O. Box 152,
Shippensburg, PA 17257. Copyright
1996.
mentioned 43 NAtional Guard units. Were they all from
the 40th
and 45th Infantry Divisions?
Mike
from
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20030402-50912743.htm
National
Guard deployment highest since Korea
Audrey Hudson
THE WASHINGTON
TIMES
Published April 2, 2003
The
National Guard was once thought of as weekend
warriors, but is now
seeing its largest deployment
since the Korean War with nearly
one-quarter of its
troops serving overseas.
In addition to new deployments to Iraq, nearly
100,000 Guard members
are serving in Afghanistan,
Bosnia-Herzegovina, Kosovo, the Sinai
Peninsula and
Panama.
"They're scattered
all over the place," said John
Goheen, spokesman for the National Guard
Association
of the United States. "They are not sleeping at home
any
more. They have left their jobs and their families
to go around the
world on active duty."
That leaves more than
300,000 to guard the home
front, and 40,000 have already been alerted
that they
may soon mobilize, but most states have plenty of
forces
available for homeland security, Mr.
Goheen
said.
Though the war against
terrorism has caused
relatively few casualties in total, the two
Guardsmen
who have died in it were killed under
high-profile
circumstances.
Maj. Gregory
Stone, 40, of Boise, Idaho, was the
first casualty of the National
Guard and died on March
22. He was killed, reportedly by an American
Muslim
soldier who is said to have thrown a grenade into his
tent at
Camp Pennsylvania, Kuwait. Maj. Stone was
assigned to the 124th Air
Support Operations Squadron
and was serving as an air-liaison officer
with ground
commanders.
On Saturday,
24-year-old Staff Sgt. Jacob L.
Frazier of St. Charles, Ill., who was
assigned to the
169th Air Support Operations Squadron, was killed
in
an ambush in Afghanistan.
As many as 1
million Guard members and reservists
can now be called to serve two
years under an order
President Bush signed just days after the
September 11
terrorist attacks. However, Mr. Goheen said the
Defense
Department wants to avoid long periods of
service
overseas.
As of March 26, according to the
Pentagon, nearly
217,000 Guard members and reservists have
been
activated to serve at home and abroad: more than
150,000 Army
National Guard and Army Reserve members,
33,000 Air National Guard and
Air Force Reserve
members, nearly 10,000 naval reservists, 20,000
Marine
Corps reservists and 4,000 Coast Guard
reservists.
A Defense Department spokesman
said deployment is
in a "fluid process" and could not give the
total
number of Guard members and reservists
deployed
overseas.
In addition to overseas
duties, 4,000 of New
York's 17,000 Guard members and 7,000 militia
are
helping to guard bridges, tunnels, train stations,
subways,
international airports, nuclear-power
facilities and the Canadian
border, spokesman Scott
Sandman said.
In
California, the National Guard is on its
second rotation since the
terrorist attacks guarding
such high-profile landmarks as the Golden
Gate Bridge
and international airports, Capt. Denise Varner
said.
"Their attitudes are still so wonderful,
they are
so patriotic and believe [in] what they are doing and
not
blinking an eye," Capt. Varner said.
When
Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge raised
the terrorist alert from
elevated (yellow) to high
(orange) on March 17, he urged governors to
call in
the Guard for extra protection.
Ordinarily, governors call up the Guard for their
states to handle
disasters or emergencies, and Mr.
Ridge said he wishes to respect that
custom.
At least 13 governors have declined to
call up
their state's Guard units.
Democratic Washington Gov. Gary Locke has been
critical of the
administration for not giving his
state nearly a billion dollars he
says is needed to
fund homeland-security measures, but said funding
is
not the reason he declined to deploy troops for
added
protection.
"I made it very clear we
will spend the money and
whatever is needed to take care of security
needs here
at home," Mr. Locke said
yesterday.
"I'm not reluctant to deploy
and cover the costs
of everything on a case by case basis, but given
the
classified information from the Homeland Security
Department and
other federal agencies ... there were
no specific targets of people,
places or installations
in
Washington."
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