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Re: National Guard



Bill;;;
 
You are funny...I called DQ and GwB boy scouts..you know that.
So get your socks out of the mud and wash them.
 
You denigrate all brave warriors everywhere with the crap you just wrote.
You defend the cowards... allI can say you must be one of them.
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Scott
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: National Guard

Dan, how Dare you call the NG Boy Scouts!  It's SOBs like yourself   (who has probably never pointed an M1 at a Chink & pulled the trigger or had the pleasant task of sweating out a mortar/artillery barrage or one of the many facets of Combat) that DO NOT KNOW a thing about the Nat'l Guard and are Totally un-qualified to judge same.
 
You call W and Q "Silver Spoons"  who hid in the NG.  Ever fly a Jet fighter?  W did and proudly served his time and would have had to go if his unit was Activated.  Ever hear of ANY Fighter Pilot who refused to fight?  You suggest you were in VN but are you sure you weren't in Canada for the war's duration?  Most cowards took a Northern vacation for a few years to avoid going to war.  How were things in Toronto back then?
 
As for Ted Williams, he will Always be an American hero! 
 
To enlighten you, most Air National Guard units were formed after WW2 by using Re-Treads (by order and/or enlistment) as a Nucleous on which to build .  Same for the Army. Also, when the NG units were called into Active Duty during the KW they usually received a surge of enlistees.... vets, draft-eligibles, students, affluents, influentials, professionals, etc., etc.,  What was your niche in life at that point?
 
Since you dinegrate the Country's National Guardsmen as "Boy Scouts"  please read up on your history to find out what they have done for the Red, White, & Blue.  If that doesn't satisfy you let me know and I'll furnish you a list of survivors and families from my NG unit who were KIA or POW .  Then you can tell them their son, husband, brother, uncle, etc. that you think he was a Boy Scout and not worthy of serving his country.  I'm sure the answers would be very interesting.
 
Until then, keep your cowardly thoughts to yoursef.  No, I can't say that as I honor the First Ammendment and want everyone to hear you and make their own judgements of you.  I apologize for going off the deep end but Hoss, Your're Walking On The Fighting Side of Me with your unfounded, untrue statements which cannot be substantiated.
Bill Scott
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Love Shack
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: National Guard

IT was Draft Dodging by HOW they got put in the National Guard
 
Ted Williams served in WW2, then joined National Guard. Then fought in Korea.
Ted Williams FOUGHT.. the pretty boys kepted thier pretty faces.
 
There is NO Comparison to the sacrifice Mr. Ted Williams did
and what GwB and Quayle got away with.
One of the many fradulent things that went on during the Vietnam CONFLICT
 
The two silver spoons were politically appointed to the NG.
Everyone knew that in 1968 and know about it now.
This was a big angry rage withthe American public back then.
Yet, they were not the only congressmen sons who were picked for the Boy Scouts
 
BY putting Ted Williams and comparing those two "wet ones" is damn shameful.
 
You have defined what a man is and what boys are. Gwb and DQ are BOYS..
 
Dan Fahey
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Scott
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: National Guard

Excellent point Gene.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 11:34 PM
Subject: RE: National Guard

When people denigrate the National Guard service of Bush or Quayle I always
told them to tell Ted Williams that National Guard service was draft
dodging.

Gene


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-KOREAN-WAR-L@listproc.cc.ku.edu
[mailto:owner-KOREAN-WAR-L@listproc.cc.ku.edu]On Behalf Of Mike Yared
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:27 AM
To: KOREAN-WAR-L@listproc.cc.ku.edu
Subject: National Guard


A Very Long Weekend: The Army National Guard in Korea,
1950-1953
By William Berebitsky
The White Mane Publishing Company, Inc., P.O. Box 152,
Shippensburg, PA 17257. Copyright 1996.
mentioned 43 NAtional Guard units. Were they all from
the 40th and 45th Infantry Divisions?
Mike

from
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20030402-50912743.htm
National Guard deployment highest since Korea
Audrey Hudson
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Published April 2, 2003

     The National Guard was once thought of as weekend
warriors, but is now seeing its largest deployment
since the Korean War with nearly one-quarter of its
troops serving overseas.
     In addition to new deployments to Iraq, nearly
100,000 Guard members are serving in Afghanistan,
Bosnia-Herzegovina, Kosovo, the Sinai Peninsula and
Panama.
     "They're scattered all over the place," said John
Goheen, spokesman for the National Guard Association
of the United States. "They are not sleeping at home
any more. They have left their jobs and their families
to go around the world on active duty."
     That leaves more than 300,000 to guard the home
front, and 40,000 have already been alerted that they
may soon mobilize, but most states have plenty of
forces available for homeland security, Mr. Goheen
said.
     Though the war against terrorism has caused
relatively few casualties in total, the two Guardsmen
who have died in it were killed under high-profile
circumstances.
     Maj. Gregory Stone, 40, of Boise, Idaho, was the
first casualty of the National Guard and died on March
22. He was killed, reportedly by an American Muslim
soldier who is said to have thrown a grenade into his
tent at Camp Pennsylvania, Kuwait. Maj. Stone was
assigned to the 124th Air Support Operations Squadron
and was serving as an air-liaison officer with ground
commanders.
     On Saturday, 24-year-old Staff Sgt. Jacob L.
Frazier of St. Charles, Ill., who was assigned to the
169th Air Support Operations Squadron, was killed in
an ambush in Afghanistan.
     As many as 1 million Guard members and reservists
can now be called to serve two years under an order
President Bush signed just days after the September 11
terrorist attacks. However, Mr. Goheen said the
Defense Department wants to avoid long periods of
service overseas.
     As of March 26, according to the Pentagon, nearly
217,000 Guard members and reservists have been
activated to serve at home and abroad: more than
150,000 Army National Guard and Army Reserve members,
33,000 Air National Guard and Air Force Reserve
members, nearly 10,000 naval reservists, 20,000 Marine
Corps reservists and 4,000 Coast Guard reservists.
     A Defense Department spokesman said deployment is
in a "fluid process" and could not give the total
number of Guard members and reservists deployed
overseas.
     In addition to overseas duties, 4,000 of New
York's 17,000 Guard members and 7,000 militia are
helping to guard bridges, tunnels, train stations,
subways, international airports, nuclear-power
facilities and the Canadian border, spokesman Scott
Sandman said.
     In California, the National Guard is on its
second rotation since the terrorist attacks guarding
such high-profile landmarks as the Golden Gate Bridge
and international airports, Capt. Denise Varner said.
     "Their attitudes are still so wonderful, they are
so patriotic and believe [in] what they are doing and
not blinking an eye," Capt. Varner said.
     When Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge raised
the terrorist alert from elevated (yellow) to high
(orange) on March 17, he urged governors to call in
the Guard for extra protection.
     Ordinarily, governors call up the Guard for their
states to handle disasters or emergencies, and Mr.
Ridge said he wishes to respect that custom.
     At least 13 governors have declined to call up
their state's Guard units.
     Democratic Washington Gov. Gary Locke has been
critical of the administration for not giving his
state nearly a billion dollars he says is needed to
fund homeland-security measures, but said funding is
not the reason he declined to deploy troops for added
protection.
     "I made it very clear we will spend the money and
whatever is needed to take care of security needs here
at home," Mr. Locke said yesterday.
      "I'm not reluctant to deploy and cover the costs
of everything on a case by case basis, but given the
classified information from the Homeland Security
Department and other federal agencies ... there were
no specific targets of people, places or installations
in Washington."


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