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Was there a time where the UN/USA was or could have
pushed
the Chinese/NK back across the 38th parallel.
I get the feeling after the shock of getting nailed
by the Chinese
that we may have been in the position to push
back.
Capturing back the battle field retrieving our
prisoners is very interesting. I did not know this ever happened.
Figuring they would take our Troops
far away from the front lines to hold on to
them.
DF
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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 11:49
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Subject: Re: Book review: Red Wings Over
the Yalu: China, the Soviet Union and the Ai...
Bob:
I don't recall the hill identification but it was near the western flank
of the 1st Marine Division if not right on the western flank. I could clearly
see the balloon and spotlight at Panmunjon. I was in the Army Security Agency
and attached to the 1st Marines. My outfit monitored the front line radio
communications of the enemy. I pulled a 24 hour shift in the bunker then went
back to a Detachment area for a couple of days before returning for another
shift. Our Detachment camp consisted of a couple of squad tents near the
headquarters of a Marine outfit. I am not certain but it may have been the 1st
Batallion, 7th Regiment or the 5th Bat 7th. There was an artillery
battery not to far south of our Detachment. Is any of this familiar to
you?
John
J. Charles, I was also there in 1953, 1st Mar. Div. Do you recall
which hill that was ?
John C Cheek wrote:
During one night in the early summer of 1953
the UN and Chinese exchanged artillery fire for hours. The next morning I
watched a Marine deuce and a half truck drive slowly along the base of my
hill. Four men were picking up bodies and putting them on the truck. I
don't know how long they were down there picking up bodies because I quit
watching and went back inside the bunker (It was not a pleasant sight).
However, the Chinese did not fire upon our position. All was quiet for the
rest of the day. Stay safe,
buddy. J. Charles Cheek
Author of "Stay Safe,
Buddy" A Novel about Humor
& Horror during the Korean War
www.authorsden.com/jcharlescheek On
Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:24:32 -0500 robert guertin <wanaki@infionline.net> writes:
What
I posted was an action involving the Chinese. Although there were
actions involving combined forces, they fought as seperate units. (N.
Korean or Chinese) The Chinese were not averse to killing prisoners,
nor am I aware of any instance when they allowed us to recover our
wounded, and there were times they used our dead as bait to ambush
recovery efforts. (Not my unit but others of record)Love Shack wrote:
OK. were they the Chinese doing it or the
Koreans? Did the Koreans fight with the Chinese or did they fight
as seperate unit? I am not trying to create and argument. I am
sure they could have this.
I am following up on a comment from an earlier posting of a person
in combat against the Chinese. After the battle the Chinese
allowed the Americans to pick up and treat the wounded and care
for the dead.
He followed up that this would not have happened with the NK and
that the Chinese were a more disciplined army.
Dan Fahey
robert guertin wrote:
Regarding Chinese treatment of prisoners;
After the 2nd Inf. tragic loss at Hoengsong in February 1951,
when the ROK fled south exposing ellements of that division to the
onslaught of the Chinese 4th offensive, these fiqures answer the
question. 15th FA Bn 208
Casualties (106 KIA 102 died in
captivity) 503rd FA Bn 56
Casua;ties ( 27 KIA 29 in
captivity) 38th Inf Regt 462 Casua;ties
(328 KIA 134 perished in captivity) Two GIs, their
hands tied behind them, had been shot in the back of the head. There
were powder burns on the back of the caps they wore. [Gary
Turbak, "Massacre at Hoengsong", VFW Mag. Feb. 2001)
Widowmaker
Love Shack wrote:
I thought the Chinese were more respectful
of captured UN/USA pilots and infantry then the Koreans.
OR were the Chinese just as cruel to their prisoners.
Did the Russians interogate with the Chinese?
Dan
AMPSOne@aol.com wrote:
In a
message dated 7/20/2003 7:28:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Home@DanSources.com writes:
I wonder if the
Russians employed that level of Trap for the US Pilots in
Korea? No, there is no evidence whatsoever of that. They
usually note they didn't know who was who until they were shot
down. Once he was shot down, they were highly respectful of
Walker "Bud" Mahurin as that was a Ukrainian name, but that
deference also wound up having him accused of collaboration with
the Soviets after the war.
George Davis' shootdown was a
bonus for them, but to this day both the Chinese and Soviets
claim they shot him down so the real victor is
unknown.
At least one ace was not
announced until after his return, as the USAF was afraid if the
Chinese knew he was an ace his treatment would be much
worse.
Cookie Sewell
AMPS
Stay safe, buddy.
J. Charles Cheek
Author of "Stay Safe,
Buddy" A Novel about Humor
& Horror during the Korean War
www.authorsden.com/jcharlescheek
Stay safe, buddy. J. Charles
Cheek Author of "Stay Safe,
Buddy" A Novel about Humor &
Horror during the Korean War
www.authorsden.com/jcharlescheek
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