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1951, prior to the Chinese seeking the intervention of the Soviet Malik
to induce the UN to request a suspension of hostilities and start the charade
of peace talks.
Love Shack wrote:
Was
there a time where the UN/USA was or could have pushedthe
Chinese/NK back across the 38th parallel. I
get the feeling after the shock of getting nailed by the Chinesethat
we may have been in the position to push back. Capturing
back the battle field retrieving our prisoners is very interesting.
I did not know this ever happened.
Figuring they would take our Troopsfar
away from the front lines to hold on to them. DF
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Bob:I don't recall the hill identification but it was near the western
flank of the 1st Marine Division if not right on the western flank. I could
clearly see the balloon and spotlight at Panmunjon. I was in the Army Security
Agency and attached to the 1st Marines. My outfit monitored the front line
radio communications of the enemy. I pulled a 24 hour shift in the bunker
then went back to a Detachment area for a couple of days before returning
for another shift. Our Detachment camp consisted of a couple of squad
tents near the headquarters of a Marine outfit. I am not certain but it
may have been the 1st Batallion, 7th Regiment or the 5th Bat 7th. There
was an artillery battery not to far south of our Detachment. Is any of
this familiar to you?John On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:36:58 -0500 robert
guertin <wanaki@infionline.net>
writes:
J.
Charles,
I was also there in 1953, 1st Mar. Div. Do you recall which hill that
was ?
John C Cheek wrote:
During one night in the early summer of 1953
the UN and Chinese exchanged artillery fire for hours. The next morning
I watched a Marine deuce and a half truck drive slowly along the base of
my hill. Four men were picking up bodies and putting them on the truck.
I don't know how long they were down there picking up bodies because I
quit watching and went back inside the bunker (It was not a pleasant sight).
However, the Chinese did not fire upon our position. All was quiet for
the rest of the day. Stay safe,
buddy.
J. Charles Cheek
Author of "Stay Safe, Buddy"
A Novel about Humor &
Horror during the Korean War
www.authorsden.com/jcharlescheek
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:24:32 -0500 robert guertin <wanaki@infionline.net>
writes:
What
I posted was an action involving the Chinese. Although there were actions
involving combined forces, they fought as seperate units. (N. Korean or
Chinese)
The Chinese were not averse to killing prisoners, nor am I aware of
any instance when they allowed us to recover our wounded, and there were
times they used our dead as bait to ambush recovery efforts. (Not my unit
but others of record)Love Shack wrote:
OK. were they the Chinese doing it or the Koreans?
Did the Koreans fight with the Chinese or did they fight as seperate
unit?
I am not trying to create and argument. I am sure they could have this.
I am following up on a comment from an earlier posting of a person in
combat
against the Chinese. After the battle the Chinese allowed the Americans
to pick
up and treat the wounded and care for the dead.
He followed up that this would not have happened with the NK and that
the
Chinese were a more disciplined army.
Dan Fahey
robert guertin wrote:
Regarding Chinese treatment of prisoners;
After the 2nd Inf. tragic loss at Hoengsong in February 1951, when
the ROK fled south exposing ellements of that division to the onslaught
of the Chinese 4th offensive, these fiqures answer the question.
15th FA Bn 208 Casualties (106 KIA
102 died in captivity)
503rd FA Bn 56 Casua;ties ( 27
KIA 29 in captivity)
38th Inf Regt 462 Casua;ties (328 KIA
134 perished in captivity)
Two GIs, their hands tied behind them, had been shot in the back of
the head. There were powder burns on the back of the caps they wore.
[Gary Turbak, "Massacre at Hoengsong", VFW Mag. Feb. 2001)
Widowmaker
Love Shack wrote:
I thought the Chinese were more respectful of captured
UN/USA
pilots and infantry then the Koreans.
OR were the Chinese just as cruel to their prisoners.
Did the Russians interogate with the Chinese?
Dan
AMPSOne@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated
7/20/2003 7:28:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Home@DanSources.com writes:
I
wonder if the Russians employed that level of Trap for the US Pilots in
Korea?
No, there is no evidence whatsoever of
that. They usually note they didn't know who was who until they were shot
down. Once he was shot down, they were highly respectful of Walker "Bud"
Mahurin as that was a Ukrainian name, but that deference also wound up
having him accused of collaboration with the Soviets after the war.
George Davis' shootdown was a bonus
for them, but to this day both the Chinese and Soviets claim they shot
him down so the real victor is unknown.
At least one ace was not announced
until after his return, as the USAF was afraid if the Chinese knew he was
an ace his treatment would be much worse.
Cookie Sewell
AMPS
Stay safe, buddy.
J. Charles Cheek
Author of "Stay Safe, Buddy"
A Novel about Humor &
Horror during the Korean War
www.authorsden.com/jcharlescheek
Stay safe, buddy.
J. Charles Cheek
Author of "Stay Safe, Buddy"
A Novel about Humor &
Horror during the Korean War
www.authorsden.com/jcharlescheek
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