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Robert:
First, why do you refer to a
"supposed" deuce and an half? I know what a deuce and a half looked like.
We had one in my ASA Detachment along with two jeeps and a 3/4 ton.
Second, I don't recall
specifically which month but it was probably June or July. I do not have a clear
memory of my time on the MLR. I only remember bits and pieces. I was only on
line long enough to get 12 rotation points at 4 points per month (May, June
& July 1953). As I recall the bodies being picked up were Marines and
the men picking them up were Koreans. Was there a 1st Bn 7th or could
the Hqs area I remember have been associated with the artillery unit?
That Marine Hq area was about 300 yards to the east of the ASA base camp. There
was a mess tent there, a portable shower unit, and sleeping tents. Maybe it was
a rest area?
Third, I though I remembered a
balloon being flown over Panmunjon during daylight hours but I wouldn't swear to
it.
Fourth, I am nearly certain that
the ASA bunker was located just outside the east boundary of the safe corridor,
or no-fire corridor, or whatever they called the corridor to Panmunjon.
Finally, if you were a Marine
enlisted man and drank hard liquor it probably was obtained from someone in my
outfit. I think we were the only enlisted men (ASA) in Korea who could obtain
hard liquor.
We brought a large supply to our Detachment every two weeks then traded and
sold it to the Marines.
John
John,
My name is Robert, not Bob.
I recall vividly the
searchlight over the Panmunjong neutral corridor, but never saw a ballon.
There was no 5th Bn. of the 7th Marine Regt.
I have no idea where you
might have been, but if you will name the month when this supposed duece and a
half drove out in front of the line to recover dead, I may be able to identify
both the Marine unit and the position, also, were the bodies Chinese they were
picking up ?
Widowmaker
John C Cheek wrote:
Bob:I don't recall the hill identification but
it was near the western flank of the 1st Marine Division if not right on the
western flank. I could clearly see the balloon and spotlight at Panmunjon. I
was in the Army Security Agency and attached to the 1st Marines. My outfit
monitored the front line radio communications of the enemy. I pulled a 24
hour shift in the bunker then went back to a Detachment area for a couple of
days before returning for another shift. Our Detachment camp consisted
of a couple of squad tents near the headquarters of a Marine outfit. I am
not certain but it may have been the 1st Batallion, 7th Regiment or the 5th
Bat 7th. There was an artillery battery not to far south of our Detachment.
Is any of this familiar to you?John On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:36:58 -0500
robert guertin <wanaki@infionline.net> writes:
J.
Charles,
I was also there in 1953, 1st Mar. Div. Do you recall which
hill that was ?
John C Cheek wrote:
During one night in the early summer of
1953 the UN and Chinese exchanged artillery fire for hours. The next
morning I watched a Marine deuce and a half truck drive slowly along the
base of my hill. Four men were picking up bodies and putting them on the
truck. I don't know how long they were down there picking up bodies
because I quit watching and went back inside the bunker (It was not a
pleasant sight). However, the Chinese did not fire upon our position.
All was quiet for the rest of the
day. Stay safe, buddy.
J. Charles Cheek
Author of "Stay Safe,
Buddy"
A Novel about
Humor & Horror during the Korean War
www.authorsden.com/jcharlescheek
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:24:32 -0500 robert guertin <wanaki@infionline.net>
writes:
What
I posted was an action involving the Chinese. Although there were
actions involving combined forces, they fought as seperate units. (N.
Korean or Chinese)
The Chinese were not averse to killing
prisoners, nor am I aware of any instance when they allowed us to
recover our wounded, and there were times they used our dead as bait
to ambush recovery efforts. (Not my unit but others of record)Love
Shack wrote:
OK. were they the Chinese doing it or the
Koreans?
Did the Koreans fight with the Chinese or did they
fight as seperate unit?
I am not trying to create and argument.
I am sure they could have this.
I am following up on a comment from an earlier posting of a
person in combat
against the Chinese. After the battle the
Chinese allowed the Americans to pick
up and treat the wounded
and care for the dead.
He followed up that this would not have happened with the NK and
that the
Chinese were a more disciplined army.
Dan Fahey
robert guertin wrote:
Regarding Chinese treatment of prisoners;
After the 2nd Inf. tragic loss at Hoengsong in February 1951,
when the ROK fled south exposing ellements of that division to the
onslaught of the Chinese 4th offensive, these fiqures answer the
question.
15th FA Bn 208
Casualties (106 KIA 102 died in
captivity)
503rd FA Bn 56
Casua;ties ( 27 KIA 29
in captivity)
38th Inf Regt 462
Casua;ties (328 KIA 134 perished in
captivity)
Two GIs, their hands tied behind them, had been
shot in the back of the head. There were powder burns on the back
of the caps they wore.
[Gary Turbak, "Massacre at Hoengsong",
VFW Mag. Feb. 2001)
Widowmaker
Love Shack wrote:
I thought the Chinese were more
respectful of captured UN/USA
pilots and infantry then the
Koreans.
OR were the Chinese just as cruel to their
prisoners.
Did the Russians interogate with the Chinese?
Dan
AMPSOne@aol.com wrote:
In a
message dated 7/20/2003 7:28:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Home@DanSources.com writes:
I wonder if the
Russians employed that level of Trap for the US Pilots in
Korea? No, there is no evidence whatsoever of that. They
usually note they didn't know who was who until they were shot
down. Once he was shot down, they were highly respectful of
Walker "Bud" Mahurin as that was a Ukrainian name, but that
deference also wound up having him accused of collaboration
with the Soviets after the war.
George Davis' shootdown was
a bonus for them, but to this day both the Chinese and Soviets
claim they shot him down so the real victor is
unknown.
At least one ace was not
announced until after his return, as the USAF was afraid if
the Chinese knew he was an ace his treatment would be much
worse.
Cookie Sewell
AMPS
Stay safe, buddy.
J. Charles Cheek
Author of "Stay Safe,
Buddy"
A Novel about
Humor & Horror during the Korean War
www.authorsden.com/jcharlescheek
Stay safe, buddy.
J. Charles Cheek
Author of "Stay Safe, Buddy"
A Novel about Humor &
Horror during the Korean War
www.authorsden.com/jcharlescheek
Stay safe, buddy.
J. Charles
Cheek
Author of "Stay Safe,
Buddy"
A Novel about Humor &
Horror during the Korean War
www.authorsden.com/jcharlescheek
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