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HATEFUL:
hate·ful (h!tÆfÃl), adj.
1. arousing hate or deserving to be hated: the hateful oppression of
dictators.
2. unpleasant; dislikable; distasteful: She found her domestic chores
hateful.
3. full of or expressing hate; malignant; malevolent: a hateful
denunciatory speech.
[1300–50; ME; see HATE, -FUL]
—hate Æful·ly, adv.
—hate Æful·ness, n.
—Syn. 1. abominable, execrable, abhorrent, repugnant; invidious,
loathsome. HATEFUL, OBNOXIOUS, ODIOUS, OFFENSIVE
refer to something that causes strong dislike or annoyance.
HATEFUL implies actually causing hatred or extremely strong
dislike: The sight of him is hateful to me. OBNOXIOUS
emphasizes causing annoyance or discomfort by objectionable qualities: His
persistence made him seem obnoxious. His piggish manners made him obnoxious to
his companions. ODIOUS emphasizes the disagreeable or
displeasing: an odious little man; odious servility.
OFFENSIVE emphasizes the distaste and resentment caused by
something that may be either displeasing or insulting: an offensive odor,
remark.
—Ant. 1. likable, agreeable; commendable, praiseworthy.
Truman's action of dumping most "left-over" military equipment--billions of
dollars worth, to be sure!--into the oceans around the world right after the 2nd
WW could alone be easily seen as a HATEFUL decision as even children I was
in the 7th grade of grade school with thought "how stupid can you be!" when they
saw such terrible waste. But even we kids knew it was done to protect
cronies and pals to get into new businesses with a wide open door and all the
loans they wanted. It was in all the newspapers, and our parents thought
Truman was insane. As far as I'm concerned, Truman damn near
"cultivated all our hangmen" by destroying so impulsively and stupidly
the vast war material America had beaten the worst world-wide historical tyrants
with. Of course, no KW veteran will ever forget the effort of all our
military people! I only hope all the young people coming up re-read the
history of the Korean "Police Action." They can judge Truman's good and
bad points from a different perspective but those points will always
exist.
Blake Mooney
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 2:03
PM
Subject: Truman and the Marines
In a private letter distributed publicly by the recipient, a
congressman, Truman accused the Marines of running a "propaganda machine
almost as good as Stalin's," a remark for which he had to publicly grovel in
apology. And there were suggestions at the time, an era of drastic
military cost-cutting, that the Marines were redundant and should be
cut.
But what are the "hateful" remarks you are
referring to?
--Mandy Katz
Love Shack wrote:
There is more to more to Trumans distaste of
the Marine then is being told.
When financial resources were low for military
budgets there was a lot of harsh
words going on. Especially the arbitrage
and asset stripping that was going on with
the large companies. It ws brutal and
political. Very few survived today intact.
Such as GM,
Hughes, Ford, Boeing, IBM...and a few others.
During his tenure the DoD, CIA and USAF were
established.
All were new Government
Departments.
(BTW are there any others I missed that were
started).
I am interested in the intent of Truman
ire toward the Marines.
Hate is not a reason. Something drove the
decision
as there were many who were trying to disolve
the Marines.
Not to mention the ire of those who tried to
prevent the USAF from forming.
Dan Fahey
-----
Original Message -----
Sent:
Tuesday, September 09, 2003 2:34 PM
Subject:
Re: Kunsan and Inchon landings, Sept 12 & 15, 1950
Don;
I remember those remarks.....Truman always
denigrated the Corps, and hated Army West Pointers almost as much, since
he had failed to get into the Point. As a Marine in the First Battalion,
we sent a letter requesting Police Badges and whistles since Truman
insisted on calling Korea a Police Action.
Thank you for your service.
DGill11331@aol.com wrote:
In a message
dated 9/8/2003 10:32:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, wanaki@infionline.net
writes:
The Inchon Landing secured
the future of the Marine Corps, which had been
considered no longer viable and facing
disbanding and integration into the
other branches. As a consequence of the
landing and the battle at Chosin
Reservoir, a public law was passed by both
houses, declaring that this Nation
would always maintain a Marine Corps of three
divisions and attached Air Wings.
Ed Evanhoe wrote:
>We're coming up on the 53rd
anniversary of landing at Kunsan and the Inchon
>landing. Anyone have any
thoughts of these events?
>
>Ed
Korea had two forgotten wars. The main
one was the war itself the second was a war that Truman leveled against
the Marine Corps in the early part of the war. Many people forget or
just don' t know that the 5th Marine Brigade was already engaged at the
Pusan Perimeter, the 1st Marine Regiment was in the middle of the
Pacific Ocean on its way to the Inchon Landing and the 7th Marine
Regiment was on it way from Europe and other places to join the 5th and
1st Marines in Korea when President Truman unleashed a brutal verbal
assault against the integrity of the Marine Corps.
My company was part of the 1st Marine Regiment on a ship (US Noble
APA-218) on the high seas on the way to Inchon when Truman made his
nasty verbal assault against the Marine Corps. I heard Truman's remarks
first hand because the ship piped all the news from the States over its
PA system. To the Marines who heard Truman's remarks -- his words had
more of a detrimental effect on their moral than almost anything we
faced in Korea. Once a Truman fan after hearing his remarks I never was
a fan of his again.
Don
Gill
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