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Re: Truman and the Marines
Gernilee:
It needs to be more then just that.
Not to say it may have been a part of it.
Time to do some digging.
Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gernilee Carter" <gernilee@msn.com>
To: <KOREAN-WAR-L@listproc.cc.ku.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: Truman and the Marines
> According to what I've read it was because he couldn't make the grade
> himself. That does, indeed, sound enourmously immature and irrational for
> someone who is President of the country - but I suppose one does not lose
> one's weaknesses just because one becomes President. But did he try to
get
> into the Marines? Probably not, it was probably WHO was supporting and
> starting the Marines, most likely a graduate of something or other that he
> could not graduate.
> Gernilee
> All of this in my humble opinion and taken from my inadequate study and
> reading.
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Love Shack" <Home@DanSources.com>
> Reply-To: KOREAN-WAR-L@listproc.cc.ku.edu
> To: <KOREAN-WAR-L@listproc.cc.ku.edu>
> Subject: Re: Truman and the Marines
> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 15:39:58 -0400
>
> The comment was that Truman Hated the Marines and West Point.
> Knowing what was provoking his feelings is what Iam after.
> You do not like or dislike something for a whim.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: M. Katz
> To: KOREAN-WAR-L@listproc.cc.ku.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 3:03 PM
> Subject: Truman and the Marines
>
>
> In a private letter distributed publicly by the recipient, a
congressman,
> Truman accused the Marines of running a "propaganda machine almost as good
> as Stalin's," a remark for which he had to publicly grovel in apology.
And
> there were suggestions at the time, an era of drastic military
cost-cutting,
> that the Marines were redundant and should be cut.
> But what are the "hateful" remarks you are referring to?
> --Mandy Katz
>
> Love Shack wrote:
>
> There is more to more to Trumans distaste of the Marine then is being
> told.
> When financial resources were low for military budgets there was a
lot
> of harsh
> words going on. Especially the arbitrage and asset stripping that
was
> going on with
> the large companies. It ws brutal and political. Very few survived
> today intact.
> Such as GM, Hughes, Ford, Boeing, IBM...and a few others.
>
> During his tenure the DoD, CIA and USAF were established.
> All were new Government Departments.
> (BTW are there any others I missed that were started).
>
> I am interested in the intent of Truman ire toward the Marines.
> Hate is not a reason. Something drove the decision
> as there were many who were trying to disolve the Marines.
>
> Not to mention the ire of those who tried to prevent the USAF from
> forming.
>
> Dan Fahey
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: robert guertin
> To: KOREAN-WAR-L@listproc.cc.ku.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 2:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Kunsan and Inchon landings, Sept 12 & 15, 1950
>
>
> Don;
> I remember those remarks.....Truman always denigrated the Corps,
and
> hated Army West Pointers almost as much, since he had failed to get into
the
> Point. As a Marine in the First Battalion, we sent a letter requesting
> Police Badges and whistles since Truman insisted on calling Korea a Police
> Action.
> Thank you for your service.
> DGill11331@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 9/8/2003 10:32:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> wanaki@infionline.net writes:
>
> The Inchon Landing secured the future of the Marine Corps,
which
> had been
> considered no longer viable and facing disbanding and
integration
> into the
> other branches. As a consequence of the landing and the battle
at
> Chosin
> Reservoir, a public law was passed by both houses, declaring
that
> this Nation
> would always maintain a Marine Corps of three divisions and
> attached Air Wings.
> Ed Evanhoe wrote:
>
> >We're coming up on the 53rd anniversary of landing at Kunsan
and
> the Inchon
> >landing. Anyone have any thoughts of these events?
> >
> >Ed
>
>
> Korea had two forgotten wars. The main one was the war itself the
> second was a war that Truman leveled against the Marine Corps in the early
> part of the war. Many people forget or just don' t know that the 5th
Marine
> Brigade was already engaged at the Pusan Perimeter, the 1st Marine
Regiment
> was in the middle of the Pacific Ocean on its way to the Inchon Landing
and
> the 7th Marine Regiment was on it way from Europe and other places to join
> the 5th and 1st Marines in Korea when President Truman unleashed a brutal
> verbal assault against the integrity of the Marine Corps.
> My company was part of the 1st Marine Regiment on a ship
(US
> Noble APA-218) on the high seas on the way to Inchon when Truman made his
> nasty verbal assault against the Marine Corps. I heard Truman's remarks
> first hand because the ship piped all the news from the States over its PA
> system. To the Marines who heard Truman's remarks -- his words had more of
a
> detrimental effect on their moral than almost anything we faced in Korea.
> Once a Truman fan after hearing his remarks I never was a fan of his
again.
> Don Gill
>
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