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Re: Truman and the Marines
Gernilee,
Your Email referred to "who was starting the Marines". The Marines were
Organized in 1775, at Tunn Tavern, Phillidelphia. Long before Truman.
Robert
Gernilee Carter wrote:
> According to what I've read it was because he couldn't make the grade
> himself. That does, indeed, sound enourmously immature and irrational for
> someone who is President of the country - but I suppose one does not lose
> one's weaknesses just because one becomes President. But did he try to get
> into the Marines? Probably not, it was probably WHO was supporting and
> starting the Marines, most likely a graduate of something or other that he
> could not graduate.
> Gernilee
> All of this in my humble opinion and taken from my inadequate study and
> reading.
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Love Shack" <Home@DanSources.com>
> Reply-To: KOREAN-WAR-L@listproc.cc.ku.edu
> To: <KOREAN-WAR-L@listproc.cc.ku.edu>
> Subject: Re: Truman and the Marines
> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 15:39:58 -0400
>
> The comment was that Truman Hated the Marines and West Point.
> Knowing what was provoking his feelings is what Iam after.
> You do not like or dislike something for a whim.
>
> Dan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: M. Katz
> To: KOREAN-WAR-L@listproc.cc.ku.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 3:03 PM
> Subject: Truman and the Marines
>
> In a private letter distributed publicly by the recipient, a congressman,
> Truman accused the Marines of running a "propaganda machine almost as good
> as Stalin's," a remark for which he had to publicly grovel in apology. And
> there were suggestions at the time, an era of drastic military cost-cutting,
> that the Marines were redundant and should be cut.
> But what are the "hateful" remarks you are referring to?
> --Mandy Katz
>
> Love Shack wrote:
>
> There is more to more to Trumans distaste of the Marine then is being
> told.
> When financial resources were low for military budgets there was a lot
> of harsh
> words going on. Especially the arbitrage and asset stripping that was
> going on with
> the large companies. It ws brutal and political. Very few survived
> today intact.
> Such as GM, Hughes, Ford, Boeing, IBM...and a few others.
>
> During his tenure the DoD, CIA and USAF were established.
> All were new Government Departments.
> (BTW are there any others I missed that were started).
>
> I am interested in the intent of Truman ire toward the Marines.
> Hate is not a reason. Something drove the decision
> as there were many who were trying to disolve the Marines.
>
> Not to mention the ire of those who tried to prevent the USAF from
> forming.
>
> Dan Fahey
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: robert guertin
> To: KOREAN-WAR-L@listproc.cc.ku.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 2:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Kunsan and Inchon landings, Sept 12 & 15, 1950
>
> Don;
> I remember those remarks.....Truman always denigrated the Corps, and
> hated Army West Pointers almost as much, since he had failed to get into the
> Point. As a Marine in the First Battalion, we sent a letter requesting
> Police Badges and whistles since Truman insisted on calling Korea a Police
> Action.
> Thank you for your service.
> DGill11331@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 9/8/2003 10:32:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> wanaki@infionline.net writes:
>
> The Inchon Landing secured the future of the Marine Corps, which
> had been
> considered no longer viable and facing disbanding and integration
> into the
> other branches. As a consequence of the landing and the battle at
> Chosin
> Reservoir, a public law was passed by both houses, declaring that
> this Nation
> would always maintain a Marine Corps of three divisions and
> attached Air Wings.
> Ed Evanhoe wrote:
>
> >We're coming up on the 53rd anniversary of landing at Kunsan and
> the Inchon
> >landing. Anyone have any thoughts of these events?
> >
> >Ed
>
> Korea had two forgotten wars. The main one was the war itself the
> second was a war that Truman leveled against the Marine Corps in the early
> part of the war. Many people forget or just don' t know that the 5th Marine
> Brigade was already engaged at the Pusan Perimeter, the 1st Marine Regiment
> was in the middle of the Pacific Ocean on its way to the Inchon Landing and
> the 7th Marine Regiment was on it way from Europe and other places to join
> the 5th and 1st Marines in Korea when President Truman unleashed a brutal
> verbal assault against the integrity of the Marine Corps.
> My company was part of the 1st Marine Regiment on a ship (US
> Noble APA-218) on the high seas on the way to Inchon when Truman made his
> nasty verbal assault against the Marine Corps. I heard Truman's remarks
> first hand because the ship piped all the news from the States over its PA
> system. To the Marines who heard Truman's remarks -- his words had more of a
> detrimental effect on their moral than almost anything we faced in Korea.
> Once a Truman fan after hearing his remarks I never was a fan of his again.
> Don Gill
>
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