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RE: Truman and the Marines



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I thought the first order was while I was sailing to Korea in 50, but I checked some 1952 orders that still had racial identification [cau] on them. May just have been inertia.
 
On another subject, the costal picture survey http://www.californiacoastline.org/ has pictures of the Stilwell Club at Fort Ord, just short of dropping into the ocean. That was the home of the last 25 cent drunk, and the longest bar in the world. I hate to see it go.
 
Inspire 28
 
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From: owner-KOREAN-WAR-L@listproc.cc.ku.edu [mailto:owner-KOREAN-WAR-L@listproc.cc.ku.edu] On Behalf Of swan
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 7:16 PM
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Subject: Re: Truman and the Marines

Harry Truman ordered the full integration of the services in 1951.
 
Bob Dove
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Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 4:32 AM
Subject: Re: Truman and the Marines

I have been amazed at how many people have gotten so riled up over anything that Harry Truman might have said about the Marines. Truman was an equal-opportunity bigot and smear-monger, even to the point of being an anti-Semit. If one goes to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3059087.stm, there is the report about how old Harry "described Jews as "very, very selfish . . . They [the Jews] care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as D[isplaced] P[ersons] as long as the Jews get special treatment," he wrote in 1947.

"Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political, neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the underdog.

"Put an underdog on top and it makes no difference whether his name is Russian, Jewish, Negro, Management, Labor, Mormon, Baptist, he goes haywire.

"I've found very, very few who remember their past condition when prosperity comes."

All that can be attributed to Truman is that he was an unabashed bigot, meteoric tempered, never forgave a slight, and wroye down too many personal thoughts that were best kept unsaid. That being said from a historian's perspective, I think that there has been far too much time spent on this thread on what and why this smallish man said about one of this country's armed services.

Though Truman was not the onlt former president who was bigoted, FDR even had a plan for the forced eugenics of the entire Japanese race with south-Pacific islanders to "bread" out their militant tendencies. But thankfully, this country, and the office of the presidency is larger than the petty foibles of a few small men. I would hope that the readers and contributers to this thread are made of the same stearner metal than to take some small slight as grounds to take some off-hand remark as a personal offense.

Harold Stockton