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Re: F80 Shooting Star info - FYI Cookie



The captured F-80's were reported on a number of occaisions by other fighter bombers, F-80's and F-84's, starting in the fall of '51 and going into at least spring '52.
 
An example is Nov 10 1951 when a flight of F-84's reported a number of non-firing passes by a red nosed F-80 in the vicinity of Kyomipo NK. This report made its way into the weekly intel summary; the summary's statement that no friendly F-80's had that nose color and none were in the area at the time was presumably cross checked. 
 
It's possible the power of suggestion played a hand. For example Axis use of captured P-38's and -47's in the ETO is documented and the KW pilots must have known that. Also later incidents (where as many as 3 enemy F-80's together were reported) could have been influenced by the first few. The same reports, '52 period, routinely list both MiG-15's and Type 15's as swept wing opponents (Type 15=La-168 a Lavochkin comtemporary of the MiG-15 which never entered production).
 
While we can probably say there were no captured F-80's operated by the 64th fighter corps, about which a fair amount is written, there seem to have been other Soviet units and special efforts less well written about, still classified in some cases. Let's imagine an F-80 (or T-33) had been obtained intact through intelligence sometime before or during the war somewhere in the world (not necesssarily recovered from a crashlanding in Korea). Then it wouldn't be shocking if that had never been declassified.
 
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: Love Shack
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: F80 Shooting Star info - FYI Cookie

You welcome..
An intersting note in the article suggests the Koreans
may have captured a F80 and used it to harrass our troops.

You discussed earlier where the Russians managed to get a damaged F86 out
of Korea.  This was interesting begging the question whether they had other Allied planes
and used them for clandestine or direct use.

Here is the quote:
There was a report that the Communist side managed to obtain a flyable F-80 during
the war and actually managed to use it to harass UN troops. If true, this would
be yet another example of an aircraft which fought on both sides during a conflict.

Dan

AMPSOne@aol.com wrote:

Dan,

Thanks. There are several others around now as well, including one by Warren Thompson that presents an all color photo album and history of the F-80 in Korea which is very good.

Cookie Sewell
AMPS