Re: revising air war kill tallies

[jose castillo <felizguajiro@yahoo.com>]

cookie--
what i really am trying to do is work only with the
USAF kills at this point. so the overclaims by the
russians shouldn't affect this, right? how do you guys
do this exactly? wouldn't you take the kill claims by
the americans & compare it to admitted losses by the
soviets & chinese? how would the erroneous russian &
chinese overclaims relate to examining not their
kills, but the USAF kills? maybe i'm missing
something? i'm all ears to learn of the methodology!

jose 

--- AMPSOne@aol.com wrote:
> Jose,
> 
> I've been following the thread and must say that I
> have had a long running 
> exchange with Diego on the subject. 
> 
> Alas, the quote you cite is from one of the Russian
> books as reason why their 
> claims are valid and the US ones are not, and at the
> end of the day there 
> appears to be an overclaiming rate of between 6 and
> 10 on the part of the Soviet 
> pilots. The Chinese are much worse, as they appear
> to have used "KGB Math" and 
> cut their own losses by 50% while multiplying US
> losses by a factor of 5. The 
> North Korean claims (last I saw them they were
> something like 5,800 shot down 
> in air-to-air combat) are patently ridiculous. 
> 
> US claims seem to be about 80-100% accurate for
> USN/USMC ones (there are only 
> 23 as separate services) and about 70% for the USAF.
> 
> 
> But at the end of the day, it's still a "who shot
> John" he-said-he-said 
> affair. Joe Brennan and I have been looking at it
> from two sides (he has pretty 
> good US records, and I have most of the Soviet ones
> released so far) and it's 
> pretty easy to figure out who was cooking the books.
> 
> 
> Cookie Sewell
> AMPS 
> 

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