Re: Shooting Star

[Joe Brennan <jbren1@optonline.net>]

T/M's list is by far the best published. However if you cross check it
closely with Korwald there are some differences where K is right and T/M
wrong (though there are more that are the other way around). Also since they
mainly used Aircraft Record Cards and the unit histories there are a number
of entries with lots of ?, those are write offs from the Arc's that aren't
mentioned in the unit histories. The real fates of those are sometimes
mentioned in other kinds of records, usually not on the dates T/M give since
that's the date of the administrative action of writing off the plane. Some
are still mysteries. My estimate at the moment based on all those sources is
around 88 F-86's were either lost in air combat or damaged in air combat,
returned safely but were never repaired. But it includes still a number I
weigh as not 100% or 0%, though I count probably as 100%.

Joe
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jackchwang@comcast.net>
To: <KOREAN-WAR-L@listproc.cc.ku.edu>
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: Shooting Star


> Cookie Sewell wrote:
> > The "78" Sabre losses broke down as 7 A models, 58 E models and 13 F
> > models. But from the "Mig Alley" book the Korean War cost the USAF
> > just over 200 F-86s lost in combat, to ground fire and in accidents.
> > (They list over 700 Sabres that rotated through Korea as well.)
>
> To be a little bit accurate, the total number of Sabres is 674, and the
> number of losses is 231.  I have OCRed their tables into Excel for easier
> counting.
>
> However, the summary in the Appendix B showed 5th Air Force lost 224
> Sabres.  So there should be seven losses belonging to other air forces.
> I could only find 3 SAAF (while a SAAF web site gave 4 Sabre losses) in
> the list, and there are 3 losses with the unit put down as "Oth(er) FIS".
>
> The same summary said there were 19 AAA losses for 5th Air Force.  The
> list acutally has 20, plus 1 for SAAF.
>
> Jack
>