Re: Korea War List of Aces

["Love Shack" <Home@DanSources.com>]

Hi Les:
I cannot pull up this web site...
Dan


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "les hanson" <hanson@totalnetnh.net>
To: <KOREAN-WAR-L@listproc.cc.ku.edu>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: Korea War List of Aces


> 4th Fighter Squadron
>             During Korean War trained Japanese Self-Defence Force,Koren
and
> Thai Air Force Pilots
>
> Go to Operations in following
>
> www.afhra.maxwell.af.mil/wwwroot/rso/squadrons_flights_pages/0004fs.html
>
> Les           A LongAgo Airman
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Love Shack" <Home@DanSources.com>
> To: <KOREAN-WAR-L@listproc.cc.ku.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 4:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Korea War List of Aces
>
>
> > Cookie:
> > I am not making the argument for Duke..
> > Just reporting his comments over his historical battle and his
experience.
> > Yet I can see why there may have been some embarrassment that was
covered
> > up.
> >
> > Regarding SK pilots did we have a big training program for them?
> > If so did they get a chance to fly combat against NK?
> >
> > One other thing....the F9F seemed to hold its own against the Mig.
> > I was surprised to read that a Yak9 shot down an F80.
> > What was your feedback on these two aircraft?
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <AMPSOne@aol.com>
> > To: <KOREAN-WAR-L@listproc.cc.ku.edu>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 4:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: Korea War List of Aces
> >
> >
> > > There is no reason for the Chinese -- let alone the Koreans -- to
> publish
> > > accurate accounts at this time, and probably will not be for decades.
> > >
> > > The Chinese have made up a lesser mythos about their achievements in
> > Korea,
> > > and as such are not about to upset things with admissions that the
> > government
> > > lied about it. Most of the pilots like Wang Hai are more than willing
to
> > keep
> > > up the "mystique" of their success, so you can't count on them for
> > accuracy.
> > >
> > > The Koreans, on the other hand, live on Fantasy Island and have made a
> > great
> > > mythos up about "The Great Fatherland Reunification War" which is
based
> on
> > the
> > > "Ju Che" (self-reliance) philosophy of Kim Il Sung. Little of it has
to
> do
> > > with reality or even bad rewriting of history, but the DPRK is a
nation
> > that
> > > cannot -- and will not -- ever admit it made mistakes of any kind.
> > >
> > > As for the reason that Congressman Cunningham can't get the answers
any
> > more
> > > than I can, NSA treats all as the same unless it is an official
request
> in
> > > line with ongoing Congressional or Defense matters. What happened 32
> years
> > ago is
> > > interesting but not critical to their survival or national security,
and
> > ergo
> > > it goes to the bottom of the stack. The material IS there -- I already
> > paid
> > > $135 (less a $50 "discount" for having been part of the SIGINT
community
> > at the
> > > time) so am sure it is going to eventually come out.
> > >
> > > Cookie Sewell
> > > AMPS
> > >
> >
>